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Post by fattdillion on Apr 20, 2021 9:23:57 GMT -5
Hello all. I am an absolute newbie here looking for free information, just being honest. I do plan to interact more with these forums in the future, so maybe one day by the off chance I can help answer a question. I have a Ruger 3 screw converted from 357 to 44, I have pretty much learned it is a Skeeter Skelton inspired build, but I am not 100% sure on the Smith that converted it, I have my speculations of who created this beauty, A very popular smith which will go unnamed, used to live in my area and has since moved, also I got this from an estate sale that the deceased person was an avid collector any possibly rendered this smiths services, but its all speculation. I learned about this forum asking others and was told the smith could probably be identified by how the caliber is engraved on the side, there are no other markings on it that I can find. I am looking to flip it since it is a safe queen and I want to be able to be as honest as possible to the future keeper and not loose my shorts in the process. I digress, a very big thank you in advance! Here are pics ibb.co/WHKh8Xtibb.co/k52pW0cibb.co/CP5wLgD
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Post by kings6 on Apr 20, 2021 9:27:12 GMT -5
Andy Horvath did your conversion. That is the way he used to remark the caliber conversions just like one my 41 Special L'il Gun he did on an old model 357.
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Post by fattdillion on Apr 20, 2021 11:43:12 GMT -5
Andy Horvath did your conversion. That is the way he used to remark the caliber conversions just like one my 41 Special L'il Gun he did on an old model 357. Wow, I was told there is a lot of knowledgeable people on this board, Many thanks!
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 20, 2021 11:49:18 GMT -5
I have a similar build except in 45 ACP, marked as yours is, and it is a Horvath gun.
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Post by fattdillion on Apr 20, 2021 12:28:53 GMT -5
I have a similar build except in 45 ACP, marked as yours is, and it is a Horvath gun. Thanks for your input!
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Post by fattdillion on Apr 20, 2021 12:30:43 GMT -5
I am curious if Mr. Hovart could supply a worksheet based on the serial number, if those type records are kept. I know how busy smiths can be, so I would hate to distract him.
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Post by x101airborne on Apr 20, 2021 14:22:28 GMT -5
Safe queen my eye! That thing has been fired. FIRE it! You may not want to sell it after you do. On the off chance you do, I would like a shot at it please. Cant promise I can afford it but I would like a shot at it.
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Post by fattdillion on Apr 20, 2021 15:08:54 GMT -5
Safe queen my eye! That thing has been fired. FIRE it! You may not want to sell it after you do. On the off chance you do, I would like a shot at it please. Cant promise I can afford it but I would like a shot at it. If its been fired then not much and not by me, it does have a cylinder ring that shows up in pics but hard to see by the naked eye. dont get me wrong, I have shot plenty of bad guys on TV with it and rolled the cylinder because I am so enamored by its smoothness. I agree it supposed to be used, but I do not shoot competition so I would lose more in value than I could get in use, I have other Ruger 44's I choose over it because they are non customized.
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Post by kings6 on Apr 20, 2021 15:42:55 GMT -5
Being a 3 screw Blackhawk there is no reason for it to develop a cylinder ring if handled and cycled properly. A new model Blackhawk is a different story however.
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Post by fattdillion on Apr 20, 2021 17:09:24 GMT -5
Being a 3 screw Blackhawk there is no reason for it to develop a cylinder ring if handled and cycled properly. A new model Blackhawk is a different story however. Interesting, I never thought about it, I though they all got it eventually. If I google Blackhawk 3 screw and look at images, click them and the ones that say used do have a ring, some more pronounced than others. I am for from having a lot of experience with single actions, could you explain how one should not be handled as to prevent rings? I have always been gentle in removing the cylinders and placing them back. Like I say, the camera with a flash picks up a ring on mine. My experience with GP100s will develop major rings after just a couple turns.
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Post by mike454 on Apr 20, 2021 17:17:42 GMT -5
On a 3 screw Ruger, If you place the hammer on the half cock notch, continue to draw the hammer to the full cock notch before letting it down. Also, if you didn't already know, the gun should also only be loaded with 5 rounds.
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Post by kings6 on Apr 20, 2021 18:04:58 GMT -5
To safely carry the old model and load it with five rounds, come to half cock and open the loading gate. Insert ONE round then rotate the cylinder and SKIP the next chamber and begin inserting the second round in the third chamber. Go ahead and insert the next three rounds then close the loading gate, bring the hammer back to full cock like Mike said and then squeeze the trigger while slowly letting the hammer all the way down. Come back to the first click and you are good to go with an empty chamber under the hammer.
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Post by fattdillion on Apr 21, 2021 12:02:15 GMT -5
To safely carry the old model and load it with five rounds, come to half cock and open the loading gate. Insert ONE round then rotate the cylinder and SKIP the next chamber and begin inserting the second round in the third chamber. Go ahead and insert the next three rounds then close the loading gate, bring the hammer back to full cock like Mike said and then squeeze the trigger while slowly letting the hammer all the way down. Come back to the first click and you are good to go with an empty chamber under the hammer. I knew that a lot of people who use/carry revolvers without transfers bars would load 5, The clicking it back to the 1st notch is interesting, how is that beneficial? I always thought that was an option to increase draw time, but the mechanism holding the cock position could not be relied upon in a drop situation. The only time I shoot SA is when i am in front of a target and I load then, so I load 6 and empty the cylinder.
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Post by kings6 on Apr 21, 2021 12:22:32 GMT -5
You are right, that shallow notch is not much of a safety feature. Jtt it at habit on my part I guess.
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Post by contender on Apr 21, 2021 22:23:49 GMT -5
By cocking an OM Ruger SA to the first "notch or click," takes the tension off the firing pin rebound spring. With the hammer at full down position, it's compressing the firing pin rebound spring.
And as noted,, by always going to "full cock" before lowering the hammer on an OM Ruger,, you can prevent the dreaded "turn line."
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