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Post by bigbrowndog on Feb 4, 2021 16:55:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I sent my 83 in .500 WY Express and both cylinders. The .454 cylinder was rechambered and fitted to the frame. ~J.O. I’ve got a 45acp cylinder that is oversize to my frame so it will require fitting to the frame, which I see as good. Except that I need to send the whole gun. I need to call Jack, that’s a fact. Trapr
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Post by cas on Feb 4, 2021 23:03:48 GMT -5
I have experience shooting 400r cast bullets in the 50AE. It's somehow been over 20 years now, so where the trouble (velocity wise) started I don't recall. North of 1200fps, possible 1300fps? (I don't remember honesty) I had headspace issues with it. If you managed to crimp them enough to hold them in place (heavy tapper crimp and a home most stake crimp tool) , the bullets would deep seat in the cylinder under recoil, the case mouth blowing past what it was supposed to headspace on, and they wouldn't fire. Reason I asked is I've wondered about shortening 500 Linebaugh Brass and making 50 AE Rimmed. I'll eventually try it out... On my Ruger there was no room for the rim. So I experimented with a couple, shortening and removing part of the rim. My 50AE dies wouldn't size the brass down low enough to chamber. I think I made one fit (??) by lubing it and tapping it in the chamber, but I knew that wasn't a long term answer. Again, 20+ years ago so it's vague. I sold it and had a 500 Linebaugh built. Of course I had the 50AE done originally because I knew I didn't need a 500 or it's power, and that the AE would do anything I needed done. Of course I wasn't satisfied and tried to get more out of it, despite thinking I never would.
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 5, 2021 9:38:54 GMT -5
I have one and have been happily shooting it with Ken O' Neils suggested load of 21 grains 0f 2400 with the Speer 325 HP at 1127 fps. As bullets get harder to find I've been debating buying a 356 grain Corder designed mold from Accurate Molds. My question is does anyone have any experience shooting cast bullets in the 50 AE Freedom Arms? If so just wondering what loads/bullets you're using and what kind of success you have had. Are cast bullets more likely to jump the taper crimp than copper? Not looking for any more than 1100-1200fps. Thank you for any insight. ***** gjn.... I read this thread reads as a cautionary tale. Most Magnum Research Desert Eagle .50 Action Express I’ve seen on the firing line were loaded with factory ammo. Don’t recall seeing a stoppage. Story I heard, the Desert Eagle was designed by a man in Michigan. Israeli Military Industries tries to buy rights to Jon Powers’ .44 Magmatic but he wouldn’t sell. IMI used its military image to promote the Desert Eagle, originally available in .357 Mag. My choreographing showed modest velocities, which I attributed to bleed-off of gas just ahead of the chamber. The gun functioned well, violently ejecting brass in a 90-degree arc----anywhere from the side to straight back into your eye, but usually just over your brow. If you were a Conehead, you could expect to have brass stuck in your skull. (Hard ejection reminded me of the Heckler & Koch 91 and G3, the most reliable .308 self-loader ever made.) The Desert Eagle .44 Mag was similar. The Desert Eagle .50 AE makes sense, insofar as the huge cartridge justifies the huge gun. Can’t imagine one of these guns auditioning to take the place of a sixgun on my hip. Nor can I imagine a rebated rim big bore revolver. Apparently, some people love em. A .45 ACP in a single action makes perfect sense; recoil presents no challenge to seating. Cast bullets carry giant validity in revolvers of all sizes, emphatically to include the .475’s & .500’s. Will FOULING compound the seating challenge of cast on a Desert Eagle .50 AE? And would the same intrude as an issue on a tight Freedom Arms with case headspace on its mouth? My take is limited, measured only by ability of a gun on my hip to perform perfectly. This is the context: an argument which suggests reliability of gun & ammo carried for self defense is somehow more important than a gun & ammo carried afield must originate in an overstuffed chair. The two are one-and-the-same; anything less clouds the mind. Seems the one thing the .50 AE has over Freedom Arms’ proprietary .500 Wyoming Express is distribution. David Bradshaw
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