tj3006
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Post by tj3006 on Dec 19, 2020 9:45:24 GMT -5
While i wait for the sun to come up, so a I can Try out my new to me 4" Model 19 no dash, And shoot the fantastic Bear cat Tyler Gun Works Built me, I got to thinking about the New Python. It is a Very nice revolver out of the box. (Seems they got the bugs out). But it seems to me , with a little hand work it would really be something. Colt says there is Very little hand work, and that most of the parts are assembled as they come off the mill. Or whatever machine they come from. Has anybody heard of A smith taking one apart and stoning the contact surfaces ? Or are they really that good out of the box that little or nothing would be gained ? I know CNC has Come a long way over the Years, just look what Ronnie wells is doing ! But is it so good that parts fit together so well, an artist can not improve them ? If so , I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, I do so admire craftsmanship, My trade , is truck driving, i have a phobia of calling my self good at it,( good is retired without ever hurting anybody) but i have had people say some very nice things after watching me squeeze a 53 foot trailer , into a tight space. But like it or not fully automated trucks are coming fast, I am Rambling a bit, But it would like to see what Hamilton Bowen, or Jack Huntington could do with a new Python. ! Progress is Progress, can't be stopped, but some times it is a little bit of a shame. Hell listen to modern music. So much of it comes out of a &^%( in computer, But Progress roles on ! ...tj
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Post by flyingzebra on Dec 19, 2020 10:30:58 GMT -5
Jack Huntington just finished an internal tune and trigger job on a New Python
The before/after was remarkable.
There's room for improvement in there.
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Post by bushog on Dec 19, 2020 10:53:00 GMT -5
While i wait for the sun to come up, so a I can Try out my new to me 4" Model 19 no dash, And shoot the fantastic Bear cat Tyler Gun Works Built me, I got to thinking about the New Python. It is a Very nice revolver out of the box. (Seems they got the bugs out). But it seems to me , with a little hand work it would really be something. Colt says there is Very little hand work, and that most of the parts are assembled as they come off the mill. Or whatever machine they come from. Has anybody heard of A smith taking one apart and stoning the contact surfaces ? Or are they really that good out of the box that little or nothing would be gained ? I know CNC has Come a long way over the Years, just look what Ronnie wells is doing ! But is it so good that parts fit together so well, an artist can not improve them ? If so , I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, I do so admire craftsmanship, My trade , is truck driving, i have a phobia of calling my self good at it,( good is retired without ever hurting anybody) but i have had people say some very nice things after watching me squeeze a 53 foot trailer , into a tight space. But like it or not fully automated trucks are coming fast, I am Rambling a bit, But it would like to see what Hamilton Bowen, or Jack Huntington could do with a new Python. ! Progress is Progress, can't be stopped, but some times it is a little bit of a shame. Hell listen to modern music. So much of it comes out of a &^%( in computer, But Progress roles on ! ...tj Hamilton won't touch them. Looks like Jack's our man! My Dad gave me his old one and now he wants a new one. Maybe I'll buy him one. He deserves it. Wonder where I get "it" from?
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Post by Stump Buster on Dec 19, 2020 10:59:33 GMT -5
If anyone can tune a new Python, Jack can do it! I'm hoping barrels become available. I have an unfluted GP-100 that needs a Python barrel.
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Post by Thunderjet on Dec 19, 2020 11:48:56 GMT -5
Am seriously considering buying one. But first they need to start selling in the MSRP range.
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Post by bradshaw on Dec 19, 2020 11:50:59 GMT -5
While i wait for the sun to come up, so a I can Try out my new to me 4" Model 19 no dash, And shoot the fantastic Bear cat Tyler Gun Works Built me, I got to thinking about the New Python. It is a Very nice revolver out of the box. (Seems they got the bugs out). But it seems to me , with a little hand work it would really be something. Colt says there is Very little hand work, and that most of the parts are assembled as they come off the mill. Or whatever machine they come from. Has anybody heard of A smith taking one apart and stoning the contact surfaces ? Or are they really that good out of the box that little or nothing would be gained ? I know CNC has Come a long way over the Years, just look what Ronnie wells is doing ! But is it so good that parts fit together so well, an artist can not improve them ? If so , I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing, I do so admire craftsmanship, My trade , is truck driving, i have a phobia of calling my self good at it,( good is retired without ever hurting anybody) but i have had people say some very nice things after watching me squeeze a 53 foot trailer , into a tight space. But like it or not fully automated trucks are coming fast, I am Rambling a bit, But it would like to see what Hamilton Bowen, or Jack Huntington could do with a new Python. ! Progress is Progress, can't be stopped, but some times it is a little bit of a shame. Hell listen to modern music. So much of it comes out of a &^%( in computer, But Progress roles on ! ...tj ***** Colt Python maestro, a main instigator of Handgun Silhouette, and IHMSA All-American Jerry Moran showed abnormally intense interest in the new model Python. Of course Colt set out to eliminate as much of the hand fitting of the old model Python as possible. In one or another of the ill-fated Colt Troopers, or MK III or MK VI, Colt reduced hand fitting to one part; the pawl comes to mind. My range work with Colt’s early attempts to horn in on Smith & Wesson popularity, along with the the growing Ruger presence, couldn’t come close to shaking an S&W from my hand. Ben "Bear Man” Kilham, whom worked at Colt, is reluctant to call the new model Python a Python. Jerry Moran described THROW-BY problems with the new model Python, along with other issues, including CARRY-UP. The old Colt double actions have much stronger lock-up than a Smith & Wesson. Bolt engagement is stout. Jerry Moran described differences of the new model Python to me, but without holding a gun I couldn’t keep up. This is simple mechanical stuff, yet supremely important to function of a revolver. I could go on, extolling the virtues of the Colt Python (I have no experience with the new model), but its flaws are impossible to ignore. Major flaw: skinny ring of steel at forcing cone hangs like a pouting lip into the cylinder window, specially designed to crack under full house loads, eventually. Timing sensitivity. Firing pin more delicate than Smith & Wesson fixed or floating firing pins. Not to mention the benchmark of firing pins: Ruger. Seems to me the modus operandi of Colt was to reduce manufacturing cost, without passing it on to the shooter. David Bradshaw
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Post by tdbarton on Dec 19, 2020 12:41:30 GMT -5
Seems to me the modus operandi of Clt was to reduce manufacturing cost, without passing it on to the shooter David Bradshaw Well that sounds like Colt all over...
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Post by flyingzebra on Dec 19, 2020 13:31:49 GMT -5
If anyone can tune a new Python, Jack can do it! I'm hoping barrels become available. I have an unfluted GP-100 that needs a Python barrel. I too am hoping for barrels.
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Post by bushog on Dec 19, 2020 13:58:02 GMT -5
If anyone can tune a new Python, Jack can do it! I'm hoping barrels become available. I have an unfluted GP-100 that needs a Python barrel. I too am hoping for barrels. Have 2 at Al's right now being re-bored to .41!
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Post by flyingzebra on Dec 19, 2020 15:13:16 GMT -5
Have 2 at Al's right now being re-bored to .41! We've done some really cool .41 caliber Colt revolvers in the recent past.
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Post by bushog on Dec 19, 2020 15:17:35 GMT -5
Have 2 at Al's right now being re-bored to .41! We've done some really cool .41 caliber Colt revolvers in the recent past. Oh goodness... Tell us more...? I was going to have them done on GP-100s.
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Post by flyingzebra on Dec 19, 2020 15:45:11 GMT -5
One project was a complete reformation of an old Commando. Added a lot of material to the frame for a Python inspired 41 Special It was amazing. Finished gun photo here Notice barrel marking Also a recent Python conversion
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tj3006
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Post by tj3006 on Dec 19, 2020 16:30:04 GMT -5
I am Glad to hear Jack was able to make one better. And those 41 ! oh my ! ...tj
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Post by bushog on Dec 19, 2020 16:43:42 GMT -5
Very nice!!
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Post by flyingzebra on Dec 19, 2020 20:23:58 GMT -5
Here's a Commando for reference.
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