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Post by squawberryman on Nov 19, 2020 18:49:17 GMT -5
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rvolvr
.30 Stingray
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Post by rvolvr on Nov 20, 2020 9:08:37 GMT -5
For historical comparison - MSRPs from the 1980 Gun Digest:
IHMSA Unlimited Class guns (15 in. bbl max) T/C Contender Super 14 $210 14 in. bbl. Remington XP100 $240 Only factory offering was 10.5in. bbl, .221 Fireball so add $$$ for custom barrel, chamber, sights, stock, sexy paint?. Wichita Silhouette $595 15 in. bbl. (almost), 7mm PPC, .308x1.5, .308 full length Weatherby Mark V Silhouette $800 15 in. bbl., .308
Weatherby features, as described in Gun Digest: "Single shot bolt action pistol uses a modified Weatherby Mark V Varmintmaster action. Drilled and tapped for standard Varmintmaster scope mounts. Has a Canjar-type trigger. Comes with case."
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Post by flyingzebra on Nov 21, 2020 17:54:21 GMT -5
That's a cool time capsule there
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Post by bigbrowndog on Nov 21, 2020 18:44:43 GMT -5
I remember drooling on my GunDigest,.....that is a special gun. I believe I’ve only seen 3 for sale and this is one of them.
Trapr
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Post by squawberryman on Nov 21, 2020 19:23:20 GMT -5
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Post by bigbrowndog on Nov 21, 2020 20:10:55 GMT -5
Add a clamp on butt to it and you e got Lee VanCleefs revo from a few dollars more.
Trapr
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Post by bushog on Nov 21, 2020 20:12:54 GMT -5
Dad has those Weatherby pistols in .308 and .243.
I dont think he’s ever shot them.
Now that I think about it they may have synthetic stocks so not as nice or rare
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 21, 2020 23:35:30 GMT -5
***** Greg.... as I’ve just come off the mountain and need to play possum, I'll share just a few notes. Wrote up the Weatherby MK V Silhouette pistol for Shooting Times. As I had to be somewhere else, I handed my MK V .308 Winchester to a fellow IHMSA All-American Bob Thomas to make its sanctioned debut, probably Goliad or New Braunfels, Texas. Much to his, and to my somewhat less, chagrin at the time, the crusty, steady Thomas leaked one, for 39x40. He had a good record of perfect scores with his Wichita .308, but he set aside his rear-grip Wichita to roll out the center-grip Weatherby. I returned from lead-slinging somewhere else, cleaning the racks on my first outing with the Weatherby. Roy Weatherby told me he had a hell of a time with the Claro Walnut thumbhole stocks cracking under recoil. Seems only 25 or 50 of the solid floor plate MK V pistols were made, as Japanese law forbade manufacture of handguns. One story holds the MK V came over as a barreled action rifle, with the barrel then lopped to 15-inches; the Japanese discovered the slight-of-hand and put the crimp on production. I can get into more detail later.... David Bradshaw
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 24, 2020 19:29:37 GMT -5
The Weatherby MK V Silhouette single shot pistol was built on a a condensed MK V receiver, 1/6-arc bolt lift----as opposed to 1/4-arc Mauser----6 forward locking lugs instead of the big action’s 9 lugs. A thick bolt body, as the lugs are cut into the bolt body. The solid floor plate adds rigidity to the receiver. Unlike the center-grip Remington XP-100, which pins a connecting rod or link between trigger and sear arrangement, the Weatherby MK V employs a sheet steel rocker to span the distance from center-grip trigger to sear. Weatherby's piece of steel is quite a bit heavier than the Remington link, which weight makes a light, clean letoff difficult to achieve. Weight in trigger linkage amount to inertia, which itself can act to unload the sear.
Firing [pin fall is fast enough for Unlimited category competitiveness. Memory from 40 years ago says close to Remington, not as fast as Wichita.
If Roy Weatherby bought Claro walnut thumbhole stocks from George Petersen of Western Gunstock, he didn’t say. Weatherby loved fancy wood on rifles, and his taste continued on the MK V pistol. As noted, Weatherby suffered numerous stock breakages.
The MK V .308 Winchester came with Lyman 17A Globe front sight, with interchangeable inserts. A thin square post worked better on silhouettes than an aperture front, as the aperture couldn’t adapt to different distances and different size silhouettes. As I recall, Lyman also supplied the peep rear sight. A rear aperture centers the eye when the eye is close to the sight. Pull the eye away from the aperture----the eye must work at alignment. Bob Thomas made his own front insert from clear plexiglass, with a tiny dimple drilled center and filled with black ink. Thus, the Bob Thomas sight picture consisted of aperture rear/dot front. Thomas made one of his inserts for me, and it is this sight I shot 40x40 on my first outing. I did not like the Weatherby sights near as well as an XP with .075-inch open blade front & Micro rear. Even better, the Lansing Shooting Supply 4-D Globe front, with Bo-Mar silhouette blade rear. I like the Redfield International Globe with post almost as well.
Bob Thomas campaigned his Wichita .308 Winchester loaded with the Speer 180 Spitzer seated over 30 grains/4895. As did nearly all steel shooters, Thomas shot Flat Base bullets. Cost less than Boat Tail, while shooting straighter in more guns. I borrowed the Thomas load, for 1,800 fps in the Weatherby 15-inch 1:10 barrel, velocity measured on Oehler Model 33 chronograph. My shooting backed up the finding of Bob Thomas that the Speer 180 SP shot a bit straighter than the Hornady 180 Spire Point in the bolt pistol. As a digression, I would take the Hornady 180 Spire Point over the Speer 180 Spitzer for hunting with a .30 cal rifle. For a lighter bullet in .308, specifically 165 spitzer fall base, I hold minimum powder at 32/4895. Likewise, I don’t go below 34/4895 with 150 grain spitzer. And I do not seat long. To load lighter increases Extreme Spread. IMR 4895 or H4895----I load them interchangeably----produces shootoff accuracy with the Speer 180 SP.
The Weatherby MK V Silhouette is finely polished & blued. Together with show quality stock the gun presents a beautiuful image on the firing line. Shoots as good as it looks. Against all elegance, the rocker-bar trigger is bound to test composure of your follow-through when the chips are down. David Bradshaw
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Post by lockhart on Dec 3, 2020 15:53:24 GMT -5
David, Bob Thomas was a good friend of mine, and my wife and I went to many silhouette match's with him. He was a curmudgeion for sure! Every range in Texas, and I'm sure other states also, knew what an old grouch he was, but that man could shoot! I learned alot from Bob, and he left me some of his reloading equipment when he passed. Seeing his name in print brought back many memories. Thank you for bringing his name up.
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