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Post by rjm52 on Jan 3, 2021 9:57:38 GMT -5
Two teaching techniques that helped me tremendously is dry firing and ball and dummy.
Dry firing with empty .22 brass on board so as to not damage the cylinder or firing pin. Traditionally one dry fires at a target. When I was in Instructor school at the SIG Academy, George Harris taught instead of using a target, use a solid color wall or blank piece of paper about a foot off the muzzle.
When one dry fires using a target one is concentrating on both sight alignment (relationship of the front and rear sight) and sight picture (alignment of the aligned sights with the target). When the trigger breaks and the hammer starts down ones brain switches from concentrating on the sight alignment to the sight picture...where were the sights when the shot broke. Problem is ones eye is jumping back and forth from the front sight to the target..and one will then do it when shooting.
By using a blank "target" one eye stays fixed on the sight alignment/front sight from the time of the squeeze to the follow through.
Ball & Dummy...start with 1 live round and 5 empties. Close eyes, spin cylinder and close. Align gun with the target and squeeze off six "rounds". Load 2 chambers with live rounds with at least one empty in between and do the same as drill one...and continue till you have five live and one empty. When you have five in the gun and hit the empty and the sight alignment/picture didn't change then you should be ready for all six...
It's how I teach my Basic Pistol students and it really works well as it ends flinch before it starts...
This works DA or SA...I have always shot better DA than SA as am less likely to anticipate the trigger break...
Bob
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 3, 2021 10:35:20 GMT -5
Two teaching techniques that helped me tremendously is dry firing and ball and dummy. Dry firing with empty .22 brass on board so as to not damage the cylinder or firing pin. Traditionally one dry fires at a target. When I was in Instructor school at the SIG Academy, George Harris taught instead of using a target, use a solid color wall or blank piece of paper about a foot off the muzzle. When one dry fires using a target one is concentrating on both sight alignment (relationship of the front and rear sight) and sight picture (alignment of the aligned sights with the target). When the trigger breaks and the hammer starts down ones brain switches from concentrating on the sight alignment to the sight picture...where were the sights when the shot broke. Problem is ones eye is jumping back and forth from the front sight to the target..and one will then do it when shooting. By using a blank "target" one eye stays fixed on the sight alignment/front sight from the time of the squeeze to the follow through. Ball & Dummy...start with 1 live round and 5 empties. Close eyes, spin cylinder and close. Align gun with the target and squeeze off six "rounds". Load 2 chambers with live rounds with at least one empty in between and do the same as drill one...and continue till you have five live and one empty. When you have five in the gun and hit the empty and the sight alignment/picture didn't change then you should be ready for all six... It's how I teach my Basic Pistol students and it really works well as it ends flinch before it starts... This works DA or SA...I have always shot better DA than SA as am less likely to anticipate the trigger break... Bob ***** Volume 80, K-22 part 2, of my photo essays shows two 100 yards groups. These are go-in-cold first takes, without warmup or sighters. First target has a white bull spray-painted on brown cardboard: 5x5=6.1” @ 100 yards. The white bull is 1/2-width of front sight @ 100 yds. Second target is plain brown cardboard without the distraction of a bullseye: 5x5=2.6" @ 100 yards. I have read of persons painting a spot on a steel silhouette to “sight-in.” Never heard of a silhouetter doing it that way, leastwise no one headed for the winner’s circle. A silhouette is challenge enough without compounding distraction. To introduce someone to the handgun, my target is plain cardboard and the shooter starts close enough to see his or her shots. My drawing of a sight picture is clear. If I seed aviation, the student must graphically draw an articulated sight picture. Dry fire always precedes live fire. I do not alternate live with dummy in the cylinder. Persons with an intractable flinch likely were ingrained in early youth by some bozo family member handing the boy or girl a firearm with loud, hard-kicking round. Lesson burned into psyche like beating a kid or kicking a puppy. Especially for this type individual I want no surprises. And when I have just a morning or afternoon to introduce someone to the handgun, the separation of dry fire and live fire is graphic. David Bradshaw
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Post by rjm52 on Jan 3, 2021 16:54:51 GMT -5
..can only say it has worked for me.
Bob
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 3, 2021 19:04:28 GMT -5
..can only say it has worked for me. Bob ***** Bob.... I won’t condemn the alternate loaded/unloaded chamber caper as you describe without giving it a try. And I won’t condemn what works for you. As for play between alignment ALIGNMENT and sight PICTURE, I understand the struggle between mental image and visual image. Close range shooting----arm’s length, or across a room, or aerial targets----challenges one’s ability to STAY ON THE SIGHT in a way which is not as graphic as the play between the sights and a distant silhouette. The challenge at close range starts with its very short depth-of-field, which introduces strong temptation to look at the target. At long range it is impossible to confuse focus on sight with focus on target----not that this stops the minds need to know where the target is! SIGHTING & FOCUS are discerned only on the Firing Line. When, under pressure you see yourself on the sights, you know you’re on it. At long range we must trust the fuzz which, when focussed upon, becomes a target. At that point the only thing holding the target is your mind, because your eye holds the sight. David Bradshaw
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Post by JM on Jan 15, 2021 17:27:32 GMT -5
Learned a few things today. Somewhere after 100 rounds, some debris became trapped between ejector star & rear of cylinder preventing the cylinder from closing. Took a few minutes to figure that out & remedy the problem. Haven't had that problem with other revolvers. Suspect tighter tolerances & dirtier ignition. A one hole, or even two hole, group still eludes me. This was the best I've managed. Even though it looks like 5 shots, there are six in there. Just can't tell which hole it passed through. Black square is 7/8". I can now keep all 6 on the steel torso sized silhouette @50yds. in slow D/A without staging the hammer. I have managed 5 in S/A to the small box on top @ 50yds. Usually 4 though, with the misses just going over the top, or to the right.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 16, 2021 0:09:30 GMT -5
JM.... I wouldn’t obsess on the 1-hole thing. If you’re going to obsess, obsess on BREATHING, SIGHT PICTURE, and SQUEEZE.
That’s three things right there. Four, if you count FOLLOW-THROUGH as separate. However, follow-through is not separate, follow through is the second half of squeeze. The third "half" of squeeze is RELEASE. The double action trigger is released at the same speed and smoothness it is squeezed.
My fear, if you obsess on shooting one hole, is that the target will steal your eye from the front sight. Against common thought, it is easier to be distracted by a target a few feet in front of you than a target down yonder. That barely noticeable theft of attention from your front sight is enough to warp accuracy. The distinction is important.
To consciously focus the sight removes all doubt as to where you are at during hammer fall. This allows one to call his or her shot. Without follow through it is impossible to call one’s shot.
Simplicity exists only in performance. David Bradshaw
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