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Post by Encore64 on Sept 27, 2020 18:56:55 GMT -5
Was pleasantly surprised by the October Issue of Handloader Magazine.
Any way you look at it, Brian Pearce does a thorough job when he does a revolver article.
The 327 Federal has been a personal favorite since it's introduction.
So good in this age of biased media to see a well researched, fact based article.
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Post by bula on Sept 28, 2020 8:52:54 GMT -5
I also like Brian's articles. When found for cartridges I play with they are kept for data purposes. A small stack here. Thank you Brian.
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Post by wildcatter on Sept 28, 2020 12:37:01 GMT -5
To many restrictions to pertain to this cartridges potential in premium hunting revolvers and to me a very limited report? J frames, Single Sixes, SP-100's and LCR's just to mention a few light weight revolvers leaves out a lot more capable loads in this cartridge. These aren't built to take the full potential of loads over 45,000 cup this cartridge is made to operate under all day, and few factory or published rounds will legitimize its true potential in the stronger revolvers this cartridge comes to fruition in! real handloads are needed and that has to be reserved from many in flavor of safety for them.
Where as in the FA, Blackhawks, GP-100's and L frames, are revolvers that continue to starve for legitimate top loads for those that don't have data to use these revolvers to near their potential. One reason I don't put much in the articles and have not the past couple decades. The 327 Federal is a case truly capable of Casull pressures with heavier than shown cast bullets, and have been proven to safely handle them.
I am in no way nocking the author, as I understand hiss liability concerns, and responsibility. But in the stronger revolvers I mentioned, those are very anemic loads and not at all representative of their potential, probably not even capable of their best accuracy, as I have found this cartridge thrives on pressure and big bullets! Thats where it comes into its own, not in pocket pistols, and I would not want to feed a steady diet of heavier loads in even the Single Six or the SP-101. But accurate with most loads, what his writings wont show is just how much more accurate and powerful it can be in those other guns that make it a true hunting round for larger Varmint, and extending it's range with healthier handloads!
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Post by dhd on Sept 28, 2020 13:01:21 GMT -5
I agree wildcatter.
Just like 45 Colt loads, (or 44 Special for that matter) it all depends on the gun those loads are shot out of. A full size RBH in 45 Colt is a different animal than a SAA. I suspect I can raise that bar even higher in using the 45 Colt cylinder in my FA83, but I don't.
The little FA97 in 327 or the few RBH's in 327 can really play with 327 handloads. I'll admit that I don't get crazy with my 327 as I don't really see the need to see how fast I fan push a Sledgehammer.
I still enjoy reading any articles relating to my favorite cartridges though.
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Post by oddshooter on Sept 28, 2020 14:28:55 GMT -5
I always enjoy Brian Pearce's writings. I was however a little disappointed in that the article did not cover enough of the combos I use. He had a lot, just not mine.
The velocities offered seemed more in the 32 H&Rmag category. 1200fps
It was titled with a reference to "Duplicating Factory Loads". I haven't really bought enough to know what factory loads are.
Prescut
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 28, 2020 15:00:47 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the article. I am a middle of the road loader anyways.
It's like reading articles on the 38-40 and 44-40. I use +P Loads and no load data goes there. At least not modern stuff surrounded by lawyers.
I'm a lover of small, easy packing revolvers. I don't load my Single Sevens to 454 Pressures and not sure why anyone would.
Still give a big KUDOS to Brian Pearce...
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Post by dougader on Sept 28, 2020 15:08:33 GMT -5
No matter how a guy figures to load his shells, the often pressure tested loads in Pearce's articles give a great guide for loading data to use in light, medium and heavy loads. They can also work as a jumping off point for those who'd like to experiment further.
I'm with Encore64. I see no need to push past where others have posted Caution and/or Stop signs. If I need more smack, the Contender in 30-30 will do, or the SRH in 480.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 29, 2020 5:18:47 GMT -5
Yep, I even have one of the very few Bearcats in 327 Federal built by Clements.
This data is infinitely useful for me.
We're probably all handloaders on this site. No article or manual will ever cover all territory we do as individuals.
I'm still thoroughly of the belief there is a huge difference between a "Reloader" and a "Handloader." It's one thing to "Reload" ammo to available factory specs, but a different thing to "Handload" ammo for our own goals.
Does anyone believe that early Colt 45 shooters envisioned what "Handloaders" would do with a 5-Shot 45 Colt Revolver?
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Post by bula on Sept 29, 2020 7:49:34 GMT -5
Now that's funny ! Yesterday was contemplating a thread on the terms, handloader vs reloader. What they mean to us, what we consider ourselves, etc.. In one post, encore64 pretty well covered it. Hmmnnn. No 327's here, but it does seem that once on the market, it was chambered far and wide in a large number of firearms. Likely because it was touted for self-defense, small bore field use, light hunting, plinking, etc.. Many niches.
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Post by taffin on Sept 29, 2020 10:15:23 GMT -5
Still give a big KUDOS to Brian Pearce...[/quote]
Definitely! My Book of the .44 is about ready to send to me for final proofing from Wolfe Publishing. Much of Brian's work on the .44 Special will be included in a guest author chapter and his work on the .327 will be included in the Small Bore Book. He is a good friend and I'm happy to have been able to help him get started writing. I have hunted and shot with him many times over the years. When he does something you know it will be treated thoroughly.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 29, 2020 10:18:18 GMT -5
Still give a big KUDOS to Brian Pearce... Definitely! My Book of the .44 is about ready to send to me for final proofing from Wolfe Publishing. Much of Brian's work on the .44 Special will be included in a guest author chapter and his work on the .327 will be included in the Small Bore Book. He is a good friend and I'm happy to have been able to help him get started writing. I have hunted and shot with him many times over the years. When he does something you know it will be treated thoroughly.[/quote] Have never read a post I agree with more. Have an autographed copy of the original "Book of the 44." Will definitely add the updated version. I have a large three ring binder that I keep every revolver article Brian Pearce does in. |
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Post by taffin on Sept 29, 2020 10:30:33 GMT -5
Still give a big KUDOS to Brian Pearce... Definitely! My Book of the .44 is about ready to send to me for final proofing from Wolfe Publishing. Much of Brian's work on the .44 Special will be included in a guest author chapter and his work on the .327 will be included in the Small Bore Book. He is a good friend and I'm happy to have been able to help him get started writing. I have hunted and shot with him many times over the years. When he does something you know it will be treated thoroughly. Have never read a post I agree with more. Have an autographed copy of the original "Book of the 44." Will definitely add the updated version. I have a large three ring binder that I keep every revolver article Brian Pearce does in. [/quote] I have over 100 3-ring binders in my library. I have saved all of my articles the first one in 1967, I have all of Brian's articles including when he worked for Guns & Ammo and all of Mike Venturino's articles from G&A, GUNS, AH and Handloader. I also have virtually everything ever written by Elmer Keith and Skeeter Skelton. I also save much of Jim Wilson and Dave Scovill not to mention several writers from AR in the 1940s and 1950s. Then there are a whole lot of other writers I have saved. Makes an excellent research library |
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Post by bushog on Sept 29, 2020 10:45:51 GMT -5
Definitely! My Book of the .44 is about ready to send to me for final proofing from Wolfe Publishing. Much of Brian's work on the .44 Special will be included in a guest author chapter and his work on the .327 will be included in the Small Bore Book. He is a good friend and I'm happy to have been able to help him get started writing. I have hunted and shot with him many times over the years. When he does something you know it will be treated thoroughly. Have never read a post I agree with more. Have an autographed copy of the original "Book of the 44." Will definitely add the updated version. I have a large three ring binder that I keep every revolver article Brian Pearce does in. I have over 100 3-ring binders in my library. I have saved all of my articles the first one in 1967, I have all of Brian's articles including when he worked for Guns & Ammo and all of Mike Venturino's articles from G&A, GUNS, AH and Handloader. I also have virtually everything ever written by Elmer Keith and Skeeter Skelton. I also save much of Jim Wilson and Dave Scovill not to mention several writers from AR in the 1940s and 1950s. Then there are a whole lot of other writers I have saved. Makes an excellent research library[/quote] Oh to have that library with a roaring fireplace, a big cushy leather armchair, a pipe full of fine NC grown Virginia flake and a hound who's head to scratch...... Snow falling might be good too. Better wake up to reality now and get to work! |
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 29, 2020 11:47:22 GMT -5
I actually feel less "Not Normal" at this point.
For 40 years I have collected probably over 400 vintage gun books.
Just ordered Steve Matthes' Book "Brave and other stories..."
Planning with Dave Clements to build a loosely based recreation of his Lion Hunting Revolver.
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