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Post by fn1889m on Sept 30, 2020 17:33:29 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if Ruger backed off on the sale of ARs, and focused on lever action rifles in a variety of calibers, from big bore to cowboy cartridges. I would have rather bought a Ruger/Marlin in a traditional lever action .44 M/S than a Rossi, had it been available. Lever action rifles are somewhat immune to political correctness. It seems like a smart buy to expand their lineup, whatever name they sell under.
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Post by x101airborne on Oct 4, 2020 8:28:18 GMT -5
Mr. Bradshaw expressed what he would do if he fell off his mountain bike and landed in charge of Marlin. I would like to suggest to his excellent response is to track down and re-hire all the old machinists and fitters (even at double salary if necessary), put all profits for the first 10 years into new machines and processes and implement a minimum 3 to 5 year apprenticeship for new hires.
I know that sounds VERY expensive, but it seems "if" they could make a near FA quality rifle, we as consumers seem to be willing to pay near FA prices. What Remington has failed to understand for the last 25 years is that if you focus on quality and customer satisfaction your products will always sell. Might not make the most money possible, but income and growth hand in hand will be steady.
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 4, 2020 8:54:59 GMT -5
I've been a victim of, but never understood cooperate mentality. They swoop in and buy up money making companies only to change what works.
Firearms in a peculiar business. It's hard to make money on a name if quality isn't involved.
I'm looking at some of the newly introduced revolvers that have the same name as once was synonymous with quality. The examples I've seen are crap. Sure, they will fly off shelves at first due to buyers wanting the name. But, word will spread and bankruptcy will come around for another round.
There is a reason the "JM" on the barrel brings a premium. It was and will forever be synonymous with quality.
Winchester went down the same road. Word spread and away they went. But, it seems today quality is back. Sadly, it's made in Japan, but quality is second to none.
Hopefully, Ruger will do great things with Marlin. A once Great American Company bought by someone who can bring back to it's former glory.
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Post by lockhart on Oct 4, 2020 9:42:30 GMT -5
I wish someone would buy Remingtons rifle and handgun business. Remington once built very nice rifles. Just because they were misled by officers of the company should not be the cause of those rifles disappearing forever. I would put Remingtons quality back in the 60's up against the Marlins made then, as just as good.
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 4, 2020 9:50:55 GMT -5
I've got two Remington 700s from their Classic Series. One in 221 Fireball and the other in 8x57mm Mauser. Both are excellent quality rifles...
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 4, 2020 10:07:57 GMT -5
I've been a victim of, but never understood cooperate mentality. They swoop in and buy up money making companies only to change what works. Firearms in a peculiar business. It's hard to make money on a name if quality isn't involved. I'm looking at some of the newly introduced revolvers that have the same name as once was synonymous with quality. The examples I've seen are crap. Sure, they will fly off shelves at first due to buyers wanting the name. But, word will spread and bankruptcy will come around for another round. There is a reason the "JM" on the barrel brings a premium. It was and will forever be synonymous with quality. Winchester went down the same road. Word spread and away they went. But, it seems today quality is back. Sadly, it's made in Japan, but quality is second to none. Hopefully, Ruger will do great things with Marlin. A once Great American Company bought by someone who can bring back to it's former glory. ***** Huey.... Bill Ruger experienced during World War II major manufacturing developments. Fascinated from childhood in things mechanical, he shifted from making tools to his firearms passion in developing a robust, affordable .22 auto pistol. His Standard Auto surpassed any durability standard the military might conjure. Winchester, Colt, and Smith & Wesson were slow to catch on. With Colt the worst, dreaming of living off the government tit while Detroit shifted from tanks to cars, Bazookas to washing machines, etc. S&W comes off sharper than Colt, improving its line of adjustable sight revolvers for the civilians and digging deeper into law enforcement sales. Colt even lost its way with the 1911; how could it do that? Remington learned huge from tooling during the war, plunging directly into the civilian market with a tough, simple bolt action rifle and pump shotgun. Winchester seemed to have caught Legends Disease, and fell for its own con that gun buyers stay loyal to a trademark so don’t worry about quality. Winchester effectively said “To hell with repeat sales,” and lost brand loyalty for good. Colt eventually got the Armalite contract and in 1968 was cranking out 50,000 M-16’s per month. After WW II, how could anybody challenge the Big Four----Winchester, Colt, Smith & Wesson, Remington? Bill Ruger re-wrote American gun making for the second half of the 20th Century. Quality in gun manufacture should not fluctuate. Quality should stay LEVEL if the manufacturer wishes to continue. There is so much writing on the wall the place is covered with pudding. I drive a Cummins Dodge with continually-greased fittings, solid axles, and a gear-drive cast iron transfer case. It doesn’t have a brain so won’t get Alzheimer’s. It didn’t come with candy and its teeth haven’t fallen out. Pulled a $60,000 meatball-tire 4x4 out of the snowbank a couple winters ago. Kind of like a Rugermobile with a bed on the back. Marlin upgraded stands a chance. Marlin downgraded stands no chance. Seems Remington treated Marlin like an anchor. Ruger should hoist Marlin like a sail. David Bradshaw |
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Post by silcott on Oct 4, 2020 10:10:29 GMT -5
I've got two Remington 700s from their Classic Series. One in 221 Fireball and the other in 8x57mm Mauser. Both are excellent quality rifles... I to have a 700 classic in 221 Fireball. Excellent rifle, extremely accurate! Justin |
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Post by kelye on Oct 4, 2020 10:38:16 GMT -5
220 Swift Classic here, my only Remington.
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 4, 2020 10:50:40 GMT -5
David, agree 100% with every word...
Grew up intrigued by Ruger guns and bought my first in 1979 for my 15th birthday. Heaven alone knows how many since then.
Also, agree with the assessments of other companies. Not being in the media clique, I'm bashed often for posting similar information. So be it... I'd rather be honest and accurate that part of dishonest hype.
I couldn't possibly care less about Bushmaster, but closely watching Marlin.
My Dad was a lifelong lover of all things Marlin. When I bought my first Ruger, it was a Security Six in 357 Magnum. For that birthday my Dad added to my battery a Marlin 1894 in 357 Magnum. I suppose to this day I love my revolvers to have a rifle counterpart.
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Post by RDW on Oct 4, 2020 11:08:25 GMT -5
Passion is the key!
And our response to this acquisition as well.
Inundating Rugers mailbox with ataboys and orders will make all the difference in the world!
I for one will make a very large purchase of 94s and 95s with the Ruger/marlin logo.
Awsome thought that we might see some stainless and in 45lc or 44 mag.
Hell even 1881 in 38/40 would be coooool!
Well heres dreaming huh?
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 4, 2020 11:20:19 GMT -5
Passion is the key! And our response to this acquisition as well. Inundating Rugers mailbox with ataboys and orders will make all the difference in the world! I for one will make a very large purchase of 94s and 95s with the Ruger/marlin logo. Awsome thought that we might see some stainless and in 45lc or 44 mag. Hell even 1881 in 38/40 would be coooool! Well heres dreaming huh? I'd buy the first Marlin 1894s in 38-40 and 44-40 out the door. |
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Post by leadhound on Oct 4, 2020 11:38:41 GMT -5
Passion is the key! And our response to this acquisition as well. Inundating Rugers mailbox with ataboys and orders will make all the difference in the world! I for one will make a very large purchase of 94s and 95s with the Ruger/marlin logo. Awsome thought that we might see some stainless and in 45lc or 44 mag. Hell even 1881 in 38/40 would be coooool! Well heres dreaming huh? I hope they take their time with setup and R&D, and don't just rush to fill orders though. Also keep whomever has been cutting Rugers grip panels for the last decade or so locked in a closet. I understand it opens a market for custom grips, but the last few new ones I have purchased, I wish they had kept them and knocked a few bucks off the price tag. |
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Post by foxtrapper on Oct 4, 2020 12:11:33 GMT -5
Passion is the key! And our response to this acquisition as well. Inundating Rugers mailbox with ataboys and orders will make all the difference in the world! I for one will make a very large purchase of 94s and 95s with the Ruger/marlin logo. Awsome thought that we might see some stainless and in 45lc or 44 mag. Hell even 1881 in 38/40 would be coooool! Well heres dreaming huh? Just sent the ceo my accolades ! These are great days we’re living in bro’s!! |
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Post by Thunderjet on Oct 4, 2020 18:45:25 GMT -5
Yes, Remington had issues when they first started producing Marlins. Prior to Remington buying them Marlin also produced a lot of junk in the 2000 -2008 time frame. I know, I bought 3 new JM’s and had issues with all of them. Swore off Marlins till about 6 months ago and purchased a new SBL 45-70.
Fantastic rifle, feeds and ejects everything just fine.
JM’s ? You can keep them.
Maybe Ruger will be smart enough to build a lever 44 Mag or 45 Colt with a faster rate of twist.
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Post by jeffh on Oct 4, 2020 22:15:19 GMT -5
..........Seems Remington treated Marlin like an anchor. Ruger should hoist Marlin like a sail. David Bradshaw Now, there's a quotable quote! Classic! 
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