.327 FedMag Snake Loads with Wax Bullets?

[larry44]

I found about 900 left over 38/357 sized wax bullets from C&R Wax Bullets that I had used a few years ago. I'd like to use them in my .327 cases for two purposes:

1. Fast draw practice   
2. Snake loads

For the fast draw practice I thought I'd use just CCI Small Pistol Primers and the 38 wax bullet hammered into the case, flush with the case head. I don't plan to drill out the primer pocket. The 38 bullet weighs 8.8 gr and the trimmed excess is 2.2 gr so the bullet should weigh about 6.6 grains.

Can anyone see any problem with this?

For the snake loads I would use the same primer but add a minimal amount of powder, powder wad, about 50gr of #12 shot and the wax bullet. 

What handgun powder and what _very_ small amount would you suggest for this? Trail Boss is too bulky. I've also got 4227, TiteGroup, CFE Pistol, 2400, Accurate #9, Win 231, HS-6, and H-110.

As always...thanks for your help!

[dougader]

I'm thinking 3 to 4 grains of 231. If you push shot too fast in a rifled barrel it just slings it outward away from your aiming point.

[bradshaw]

Wax bullets are propelled by PRIMER alone. Primer FLASH HOLE is drilled to prevent primer setback which will bind cylinder against rotation.

Can’t advise on a shot load for a .32 Fed MG. A pinch of powder in the Bullseye burn rate should do. Two things quickly degrade shot performance from a handgun----rifling flings an erratic pattern; velocity widens spread, thus thinning it.
David Bradshaw

[bushog]

Fermin posted a shot load recipe quite some time ago for the .327. A simple search should turn it up...

[leadhound]

Would be hard to hold it all together without compressing the column, without a capsule, I only know of stacking on top of blackpowder. This is top to bottom would have to experiment with each charge and wad thickness to get intended results,

Shot card (sealed with thinned Elmer's or isinglass

Shot charge

Shot card

Greased fiber wad thick enough to fill cavity (needs to be long enough to remain stable and push out shot)

Shot card

BP charge

[45MAN]

Sept 27, 2020 17:40:34 GMT -5 bushog said:

Fermin posted a shot load recipe quite some time ago for the .327. A simple search should turn it up...

BUSHOG: AM PLANNING ON WORKING UP A SNAKE SHOT LOAD FOR THE 327, THANKS FOR THE ABOVE INFO.

[bula]

I'd look to Walters Wads for wads, shot cards. They are vegetable fiber. Think they have them in .320" and .360" ? If neither of these sizes will work, then thin carboard like primer box material will work. Of the powders the OP has, the TiteGroup or WW231 most suitable. 

[45MAN]

SAGEOUTDOORS.COM SELLS SHOTSHELL KITS FOR REVOLVER CARTRIDGES INCLUDING THE 32's. FOR THE 32's THE KIT COMES WITH 50 VEGETABLE MATTER OVER POWDER WADS AND FIFTY OVER SHOT WADS, EITHER VEGETABLE MATTER OR METAL. THEY ALSO SELL SMALL BATCHES OF #9 SHOT IN 3lb BAGS. SIXSHOT SENT ME SOME #11 SHOT SO I WILL HAVE A #9 AND A #11 OPTION.

[sixshot]

I use a sharpened case of the correct caliber to cut either a card wad from primer boxes or coffee lids. Then use a fast powder like Bullseye but be sure to not use to much or you will over spin it in your barrel & end up with a wide pattern. So you will have to experiment here.
I normally use a little glue to just hold the top wad in place, doesn't take much. These are very effective although I've never made them for my 327's. Use a paper plate at 10-15 feet to check your pattern.

Dick

[dougader]

I use Dick's method and have used the Speer capsules. I can put a lot more shot in using Dick's method and those plastic shot capsules are too darn expensive anyway.

This is 45 Colt

[dougader]

Primer box cardboard over-cards compared to Speer shotshell. The center case is also 454 brass annealed and necked down to .44 so the longer brass fits in my 45 Colt revolvers.

The shot capsule holds about 150 grains of shot. The other holds close to 200 grains of shot.

[45MAN]

GUYS, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RELUCTANT TO USE PRIMER BOX CARDBOARD, OR ANY CARDBOARD, FOR OVER POWDER OR OVER SHOT WADS BECAUSE IT MIGHT ABSORB MOISTURE AND IT IS USUALLY VERY HUMID IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS. AM I BEING TOO CAREFUL?

[dougader]

I put a good size drop of Elmer's glue on the top of the overshot card. I think that should keep out moisture.

Some have substituted copper gas checks for over powder and over shot cards.

[Rimfire69]

I have been using a hot glue gun and that will get you a moister seal.

[bula]

45Man, thank you for the SageOutdoors,com info. Did not know of them, likely will order something ! The small batch of 9 shot at least.