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Post by aciera on Sept 22, 2020 15:43:15 GMT -5
Okay I’m old. I work weekends, like 8 people instead of 200, drama free. And one is my IT guy.
He’ll help me with the pictures.
If someone will PM me a Phone Number or email I’ll send pictures of the CT Brian that was asked for. I can send pictures.
Like I said........I’m a slow study.
LTWguns forum for the OP.......some of the top tier 1911 smiths post there.
Calguns had a thread a year or 2 ago ago:
“Who currently makes the best full custom 1911”
Some folks had bought 1911 from all the top guys. Some BS ......but that’s the Internet
Mainly to educate on what the is and who does what. And it’s the little things that will get you. Good and bad.
One friend who had to shoot for a living got a double stack with ambidextrous safety. Got rid of it and went back to single stack.
I had a Kimber ultra carry. 3” barrel. Aluminum frame. A little too lively. The SS CT Brian I got is MUCH better for me. The Kimber worked great. Just the little things.
Read,read,read,shot as many different 1911s as you can, ask a lot of questions.....that dumb question maybe isn’t after you pay for it. You earned the money.
See if you are a fit with the gunsmith. Really makes a difference.
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Post by aciera on Sept 22, 2020 16:21:50 GMT -5
One other thing......if you decide you want a top tier 1911.......do it. You will not regret it.
Do it now. A few are not taking orders. Make your down payment and you have 2-7 years to figure how to pay for it. Drink instant instead of Starbucks.
And don’t buy a gun till you decide on smith.
I think Burton wants a Colt or Springfield nothing else.....2 years ago anyway.
Brian wants Caspian frame and slide with no work done on the frame or slide except the fit.
He hand files all the checkering HIS way.
But get on the list. But don’t rush your decision........double edged sword isn’t it.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 22, 2020 16:22:53 GMT -5
Read the OP again. A lot of custom and off the shelf 1911s have passed through here. Some still here some gone. The one gone that sticks out in my head is a little hard Chrome 1911 Colt Combat Commander that said "Pachmayr Combat Special" on the slide. I'd like to have that one back. No pictures outside of in my head. It was a 4 digit gun 40 years ago.
In your price range I'd go Dan Wesson. Have a little left over for proper leather too.
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Post by aciera on Sept 22, 2020 17:22:30 GMT -5
Read the OP again. A lot of custom and off the shelf 1911s have passed through here. Some still here some gone. The one gone that sticks out in my head is a little hard Chrome 1911 Colt Combat Commander that said " Pachmayr Combat Special" on the slide. I'd like to have that one back. No pictures outside of in my head. It was a 4 digit gun 40 years ago. In your price range I'd go Dan Wesson. Have a little left over for proper leather too. You are old enough to remember Pachmayr before the fire. Some of the finest rifles and pistols made
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Post by squawberryman on Sept 22, 2020 18:05:10 GMT -5
My Bob Marvel built. It was the first of three prototypes he built for Nighthawk before they started pumping out 4K "Marvel" guns. I spoke with Bob when I got it. It has a Smith and Wesson barrel. I asked him about that when we spoke. He said they'd come out with a run of barrels that were as good as any 1911 barrels he'd ever seen. Doc did the leather.
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Post by cmillard on Sept 22, 2020 18:22:28 GMT -5
Les Baer, rock River arms, Dan Wesson or Ed brown....in no particular order
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Post by maxcactus on Sept 22, 2020 20:10:43 GMT -5
Okay I’m old. I work weekends, like 8 people instead of 200, drama free. And one is my IT guy. He’ll help me with the pictures. If someone will PM me a Phone Number or email I’ll send pictures of the CT Brian that was asked for. I can send pictures. Like I said........I’m a slow study. LTWguns forum for the OP.......some of the top tier 1911 smiths post there. Calguns had a thread a year or 2 ago ago: “Who currently makes the best full custom 1911” Some folks had bought 1911 from all the top guys. Some BS ......but that’s the Internet Mainly to educate on what the is and who does what. And it’s the little things that will get you. Good and bad. One friend who had to shoot for a living got a double stack with ambidextrous safety. Got rid of it and went back to single stack. I had a Kimber ultra carry. 3” barrel. Aluminum frame. A little too lively. The SS CT Brian I got is MUCH better for me. The Kimber worked great. Just the little things. Read,read,read,shot as many different 1911s as you can, ask a lot of questions.....that dumb question maybe isn’t after you pay for it. You earned the money. See if you are a fit with the gunsmith. Really makes a difference. Half the problem is the fact that I live in the Republic of Commiefornia, so a LOT of really premium 1911s aren't even available to me - to hold, let alone shoot and buy. (Yes, I'm working on getting out) They're literally not on the Commiefornia "approved" list of tools. I forgot about Rock River Arms, esp after their political fiasco with Springfield Armory, but I'll give them a look. They seem to be rarer than chicken's lips, however, and I doubt they're CA approved. To Axehandle and David Bradshaw, I always value your input and experience on such threads. I'm not locked into a $2000 budget at all, but was wondering if I'm really getting any tangible benefits, other than prettier and pride of ownership, for my $$ after that price point. A Dan Wesson is @ $1500 and a Wilson, Ed Brown or Nighthawk Custom easily goes another $1000 more than that. What REALLY do I get for that extra $1K? I find it funny you mentioned Pachmayr, Axe, as I would give my eye teeth for an original Pachmayr or Armand Swenson custom 5"! Jason Burton has an "AMU Colt Commercial" that is based off the a Swenson custom that is just gorgeous. I'm sure the price reflects the fact as well. Zeus, I wish you hadn't posted that Jason Burton pistol. I've spent a LOT of time on his site ogling his magnificent builds. Whoever did his photography and built his website are master craftsmen in their own right. I just couldn't see using such a beautiful gun as a hard use daily carry piece. His Retro build that resembles an old Armand Swenson really appeals to me. Ultimately, it seems my decision may be dictated by the fact that only a handful of premium manufacturers list "California approved" model pistols and most of these start well above $1500. I know Les Baer and Ed Brown both have a couple models available, so I may have to go that route. Brown's California Special Forces looks quite nice though it lists @ $2800.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 22, 2020 20:38:04 GMT -5
Life is full of choices! Remember a 5 inch Swenson custom Colt at the old Aero Marine in Birmingham Al in back in the 70s. Gun was built on a 1911. Not a 1911A1 but an actual 1911. Should have bought that gun. Had Clark build a pin gun in the early 80s. Had Wilson build a Accucomp LE on the nicest pre series 70 commercial Colt I'd ever seen in the mid 80s. Ed Brown built me a 10mm Maxi Comp in 88. The original Joe Chambers built me a full house 38 Super with a Plaxco compensator about the same time. In the mid 90s I retired and had to turn in all my government paper punchers so I had personal guns built.. Looks like I spent a lot of money on custom guns. It has been fun! Enjoy the journey
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Post by JM on Sept 22, 2020 22:01:09 GMT -5
This is an interesting thread. I've not had the pleasure of experiencing the higher end pistols mentioned. Dan Wesson has been my top shelf so far. I've seen several DW for sale in the $1000-$1500 range. Match grade barrel, tool steel internals, duty coat finish, etc. Who else offers those features in that price range?
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 22, 2020 22:58:58 GMT -5
Stan..... push your button, eh? I may make fun of its antiquity, but I don’t disparage Pocket Pool Offhand as a force for developing skill and eradicating nerve panic----otherwise know as flinch. Pocket Pool Offhand paved my way to using both hands. One Hand Skill with a pistol is to be cultivated, never know when it may come in handy. Perhaps if everyone learns on one hand, effective FOLLOW THROUGH won’t depend on a support hand.... and marksmanship at longer distances intimidate so many who “learn” squeeze only while holding with both hands.
And no, a misfire in silhouette earns no alibi. However, when the wind blows over a target, or a competitor crossfires on your bank, you may call to engage a missed target on someone else’s bank----while th clock still ticks. Or, you may call for an alibi.
Scoring, as you know, requires target to topple at the shot. Even a ricochet counts, providing it topples the correct target. A chicken that does a back flip, to land on its foot, or a turkey which spins 180-degrees without falling, counts a miss. David Bradshaw
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Post by squawberryman on Sept 23, 2020 5:11:02 GMT -5
Mr. Bradshaw, did a flippin' chicken ever result in fisticuffs? Sorry OP.
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 23, 2020 7:15:31 GMT -5
Mr. Bradshaw, did a flippin' chicken ever result in fisticuffs? Sorry OP. ***** Saw a chick flip, to land standing.Brought a cheer. IHMSA president Elgin Gates flipped a chicken, think it was with his 7mm/308x1-3/4” XP-100. Bullet must strike leg, well below center of gravity. Especially in the early days, on a rail set just above grade, the rear leg of a ram might get pushed off, onto the ground. Technically the ram is standing----half off the rail. Had the rail been higher, the ram would topple. Counts as an “X”----1 point. The 1/2” thick pig, shot @ 100 meters (109-110 yards), presents another challenge. A misaligned welding job on its two feet can result in the front foot lower than the rear. Since most of the weight is on the front foot, a shot in the fanny may pivot javelina 180 or 360 degrees, or anywhere in between, to leave it standing fully supported by the rail. Counts as “0”----0 points. Inertia of the pig results in other outcomes. In 1978, as I shot Standing with an 8-3/8” Model 29, spotted by Pennsylvania IHMSA director Jack Parked, a Sierra .44 240 JHC @ 1,300+ struck the pigs shoulder just below vertical center. The bullet vaporized in a gray puff. Parker, an excellent spotter (and shot), described the impact in disbelief. In the jargon of the firing line, that is a “ringer,” and scored as a miss. Core of the Sierra 240 JHC is alloyed with a small dose of antimony. The old Hornady 240 JHP (pre-XTP) with pure lead core may have toppled that javelina. Silhouetters who have blown up hard cast bullets without toppling the target number in the hundreds. Bullet blow-up illustrates the importance of DWELL TIME on a steel silhouette. The same phenomenon is witnessed in small jacketed rifle bullets at high velocity on silhouettes----vaporized bullet leaves target standing. The ram also hangs most of its weight on the front leg. Afficianados of the .357 Magnum knew the value of a hit on the rump of a ram to start the rear leg moving off the rail. Python ace Jerry Moran concentrated shots from his 6” Python on the rump of the borrego----ram. This practice requires the marksman or markswoman to shoot tight, as a shot slightly high or rearward is likely to miss. Moran’s preferred Python load: Sierra 170 FMJ over a case full of 296 or H110. Believe his ram load stiffer than ammo for chickens, pigs, turkeys. Jerry still shoots his main silhouette Python, a blued 6-inch, on barrel #6. A glimpse at the vagaries of silhouette. To ply the steel game with a 1911 .45 ACP, the first order of business is to target @ 100 yards or meters.... to discern a gun which gathers 5x5 damn close to 3” in the length of a football field. David Bradshaw
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Post by rangersedge on Sept 23, 2020 7:37:54 GMT -5
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Post by squawberryman on Sept 23, 2020 11:14:00 GMT -5
Starting price on that is 10K. Wowza
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 23, 2020 13:13:35 GMT -5
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