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Post by lockhart on Sept 7, 2020 12:48:17 GMT -5
I have the 9.5" barrel, and had one in .454 Casull with 7.5" barrel, and that one was just too painful to shoot with factory loads. I think it kicked hard than my 8 3/8's Smith .500! I'm not recoil sensitive, but shooting a gun that is that hard on you is ridiculous. The .480 is just right. I use 16 grains of 2400, behind an RCBS 400 grain cast swc bullet. Clover leaf groups at 25 yards are pretty standard with this load.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 30, 2020 22:31:41 GMT -5
***** bula.... reading this, I detect unusually high combustion efficiency in the .480 Ruger case. Plays into good launch speed from a short barrel, amplifying the value of a trail defense gun such as the Super Redhawk Alaskan. This conservation doesn’t intrude on RECOIL, the jolt of which is especially harsh from a short barrel Big Bore. David Bradshaw This is why I sold my 454 SRH and Alaskan and bought 480 Ruger revolvers. The losses from a 7.5" 454 SRH down to the 2.5" Alaskan was 1430-1174 = 256 fps. This with the Cast Performance 335 grain WLNGC bullet over W296. The 480 Ruger does the job with heavier bullets and lower velocity, creating less blast and recoil on my arthritic wrists. You are doing a very poor job of talking me out of a 480 Alaskan.
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Post by bamagreg on Oct 1, 2020 6:55:00 GMT -5
I think I am going to be looking for a 480 Alaskan too. I recently bought a Freedom Arms 475 Linebaugh with a 7-1/2" barrel and then sold my 480 SRH (7.5") and my 480 SBH (6.5"). I will jump on either a 4-5/8" SBH or an Alaskan, whichever pops up first.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Oct 1, 2020 8:29:48 GMT -5
sold my 454 Alaskan, & kept my 480 Alaskan... muzzle blast on the 454 was pretty brutal compared to the 480... now if Ruger would make that Marlin 480 Lever action, I'd have my double action snubbie for back up, a custom 4.8" Super Blackhawk in 480 for handgun hunting, & a companion rifle to complete the set
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Post by bula on Oct 1, 2020 8:46:49 GMT -5
While this discussion has been about barrel length, I'll throw out the weights I have. All in 480 flavor. The Alaskan goes 42.5 oz. The 4 5/8" BSBH goes 46.5 oz. The 6.5" BSBH just went 49 oz, but I have it in head that I saw 50 oz., some time ago. Hmmnnn.. I consider all "belt packable".
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Post by dougader on Oct 2, 2020 13:09:05 GMT -5
I just wish Ruger would sell the Alaskan in a 4"-5" barrel length.
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Post by Encore64 on Oct 2, 2020 15:56:51 GMT -5
Jack Huntington built me a Midframe Flattop Bisley in 480 Ruger with a 5" barrel. Very packable...
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Post by dougader on Oct 2, 2020 19:31:49 GMT -5
Jack Huntington built me a Midframe Flattop Bisley in 480 Ruger with a 5" barrel. Very packable... If you don't mind, and have the time, email pics of that one and I'll post them here... or anywhere. I'd love to see it. dberry45 at gmail dot com
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Post by bula on Oct 2, 2020 23:37:01 GMT -5
ColdTriggerFinger made a good argument for a big critter defense gun having about 4" of barrel, rather than being a snubby.
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Post by groo on Oct 10, 2020 11:27:56 GMT -5
I see 60 fps difference between my 2.5" Alaskan and the 4 5/8" BSBH. Then 50 fps difference between the 4 5/8" BSBH and the 6.5" BSBH. I believe Ken is right. Think by the time you add optics or dot to them big guns, I'd sling it, or sew a rifle sling to a pistol rug.. Had a 7.5" RH with a dot years ago. ***** bula.... reading this, I detect unusually high combustion efficiency in the .480 Ruger case. Plays into good launch speed from a short barrel, amplifying the value of a trail defense gun such as the Super Redhawk Alaskan. This conservation doesn’t intrude on RECOIL, the jolt of which is especially harsh from a short barrel Big Bore. David Bradshaw Groo here +1 Dave... The shorter the barrel the larger the hole in it needs to be....... We see this in 9mm vs 45acp 3in vs 5in 1911. The larger bore has a lesser % of loss per inch than the smaller one.. Also look at the 357 and 44 snub vs longer barrels.[ Ballistics by the inch] This is why I like big bore 3in guns. PS. There is a smaller jump between about 3in[+- 1/4 some] and 4in then the shorter barrels. Also look at the 5in vs 6 inch. From the performance point of view , 3in and 5in are about right.[unless you need the length when using iron sights!!!]
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Post by bula on Oct 10, 2020 17:27:59 GMT -5
That's why there is a 44spec 3" Classic Charter Arms in my back pocket.
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Post by reflex264 on Oct 15, 2020 19:27:21 GMT -5
Late to the party but I love my 7.5" 480 SRH. It is handy enough with the 7.5" tube and I wouldn't hesitate to use it on elk or moose.
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Post by flyingzebra on Oct 15, 2020 21:34:57 GMT -5
If I can get enough time on the 3-1/2" 480 project before the end of the weekend where I'm regulating the sights, I'll see about chronographing the 375gr Cast Performance bullets. The load I'll be running is 26.0gr 296 with the CCI 350 primer.
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Post by flyingzebra on Oct 17, 2020 19:13:17 GMT -5
1100fps
Brass and primer say there's room for more powder
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Post by groo on Oct 19, 2020 11:25:14 GMT -5
***** bula.... reading this, I detect unusually high combustion efficiency in the .480 Ruger case. Plays into good launch speed from a short barrel, amplifying the value of a trail defense gun such as the Super Redhawk Alaskan. This conservation doesn’t intrude on RECOIL, the jolt of which is especially harsh from a short barrel Big Bore. David Bradshaw This is why I sold my 454 SRH and Alaskan and bought 480 Ruger revolvers. The losses from a 7.5" 454 SRH down to the 2.5" Alaskan was 1430-1174 = 256 fps. This with the Cast Performance 335 grain WLNGC bullet over W296. The 480 Ruger does the job with heavier bullets and lower velocity, creating less blast and recoil on my arthritic wrists. +1 Dave I had some talks with J.D.Jones [SSK] about the heavy cast bullets in the 44mag[320gr] . With one of his loads using WW680/AA1680 the speed difference between a 4 5/8 in and a 7 1/2 was only 50 fps [+- a little] But the load difference between 296/H110 and 680/1680 was only about 100fps[+- a little] . There seems to be a sweet spot where the powder / bullet combo just works and barrel length not so important...
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