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Post by bushog on Jun 15, 2020 13:05:16 GMT -5
I'd color the trigger too.
1) Case colored hammer and trigger kinds go together unless you want to get snazzy and nitre blue the trigger.
The nitred trigger looks great with the brass grip frame.
2) Nitre blue all the screws and base pin latch too if you want.
I do on my case colored builds.
3) Going to use the stock rear sight?
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2020 13:06:28 GMT -5
These builds are so much more exciting than the big boomer magnums in my opinion.
I'll admit they're fun too, but a man who'll drop the bucks on a first class retro build has my respect.
The event of Starline Brass and the Lee Factory Crimp Die has changed the 38-40s image to me. Tons of fine cast and jacketed bullets for the 40 S&W and 10mm have few limits too.
Admittedly, the builders of yesteryear didn't have the standardized dimensions we do today. That caused problems we seldom encounter today.
These fine old rounds were my first thought when Magnum Research announced the 6-Shot 357 Magnums. A quick rechamber along with a new barrel will be a very strong platform for the oldies but goodies.
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Post by pacecars on Jun 15, 2020 13:07:18 GMT -5
Just checked how much Ivory grips would cost! Sheesh!
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2020 13:12:51 GMT -5
Just checked how much Ivory grips would cost! Sheesh! Look at the simulated ivory from LS Grips. It's the best I've seen yet and still be a usable gun. It's what's going on my Clements 41 Special. Just a thought... |
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2020 14:19:23 GMT -5
Pacecars, let me know when this gun gets close. I'll box up a care package of all my favorite 38-40 bullets and ship to you. This way you can try different bullets without buying a bunch of boxes of them.
Huey
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Post by pacecars on Jun 15, 2020 14:38:49 GMT -5
Thanks Huey! There are a few ahead of me but shouldn’t be overly long
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Post by rWt on Jun 15, 2020 14:54:18 GMT -5
He can place a marking in the cylinder face to denote which cylinder is which-On my FA97, they marked an "A" to denote the 45 ACP Cylinder.
Will the octagon barrel be straight or tapered? Do you have a preferred twist rate? Or, any other barrel requirements?
I didn't see a mention of how the Bisley grip frame is to be finished-Steel should be blued? Or, are you getting a brass one? If aluminum, John Gallagher liked midnight blue cerakote.
How "fine" a bluing job do you want? If as nice as possible, you may want to tell him he needs to spend more time in polishing the metal to get it best prepped. Or, do you want them rust blued? Or, another type of bluing?
Fitting of the grip frame? Do you want everything fitted and machined as perfectly as possible?
These are just questions I have inventoried as I have read various posts about custom revolvers. I have thought about saving photos of revolvers that I liked to send to a smith to help communicate how I wanted the bluing to be, for example. And, some of the details may be a given for how he builds his revolvers.
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Post by pacecars on Jun 15, 2020 15:52:30 GMT -5
All good questions on finishes. I am looking at some of John’s work to see which strikes my fancy. I have thought about the Bowen rear sight but I also like the factory one just fine
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Post by RDW on Jun 15, 2020 16:49:22 GMT -5
Within six shots you are going to be diggin you some 38/40 brother!
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Post by drycreek on Jun 15, 2020 17:41:31 GMT -5
I’m reading this and some of it is over my head. For a bare bones, (without all the bells and whistles), 38-40/10mm convertible, what has to be done to a Ruger .357 Blackhawk ? I’m asking because I’m a 10mm fan, but I don’t know much about the .38 WCF except there were lots of Colts chambered in it back in the day. Educate me guys....
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2020 17:47:58 GMT -5
I’m reading this and some of it is over my head. For a bare bones, (without all the bells and whistles), 38-40/10mm convertible, what has to be done to a Ruger .357 Blackhawk ? I’m asking because I’m a 10mm fan, but I don’t know much about the .38 WCF except there were lots of Colts chambered in it back in the day. Educate me guys.... Oh My... I won't hijack Pacecars' thread, but the 38-40 gets my vote as the most misunderstood, underrated revolver cartridge in existence. |
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Post by pacecars on Jun 15, 2020 17:58:06 GMT -5
I’m reading this and some of it is over my head. For a bare bones, (without all the bells and whistles), 38-40/10mm convertible, what has to be done to a Ruger .357 Blackhawk ? I’m asking because I’m a 10mm fan, but I don’t know much about the .38 WCF except there were lots of Colts chambered in it back in the day. Educate me guys.... Oh My... I won't hijack Pacecars' thread, but the 38-40 gets my vote as the most misunderstood, underrated revolver cartridge in existence. Feel free! I learn a lot as theses threads go on even the ones that go way out (not that this is happening) in left field! The cheapest way to get the 10mm/.38-40 is the stainless 10mm/.40 S&W and have the .40 rechambered to .38-40. A .357 can be rechambered to 10mm and a spare cylinder rechambered to .38-40. If you have a convertible.357/9mm you would be all set. You could get a new barrel or rebore the .357 to .40 |
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Post by leadhound on Jun 15, 2020 17:59:31 GMT -5
I’m reading this and some of it is over my head. For a bare bones, (without all the bells and whistles), 38-40/10mm convertible, what has to be done to a Ruger .357 Blackhawk ? I’m asking because I’m a 10mm fan, but I don’t know much about the .38 WCF except there were lots of Colts chambered in it back in the day. Educate me guys.... Oh My... I won't hijack Pacecars' thread, but the 38-40 gets my vote as the most misunderstood, underrated revolver cartridge in existence. That started life as a rifle cartridge! |
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Post by leadhound on Jun 15, 2020 18:02:25 GMT -5
Feel free! I learn a lot as theses threads go on even the ones that go way out (not that this is happening) in left field! The cheapest way to get the 10mm/.38-40 is the stainless 10mm/.40 S&W and have the .40 rechambered to .38-40. A .357 can be rechambered to 10mm and a spare cylinder rechambered to .38-40. If you have a convertible.357/9mm you would be all set. You could get a new barrel or rebore the .357 to .40 Or buy a new stainless ruger blackhawk in 10mm/40 and have the 40 cylinder rechambered. |
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2020 18:07:55 GMT -5
Of course, Asa is correct. It started life in the Winchester Lever Action Rifles.
I'm fairly new to the cartridge myself. Now have a Reeder 5-Shot Blackhawk, Clements 6-Shot Blackhawk and a Uberti Bad Boy 10mm that I fit a 38-40 Cylinder to. All three are extremely accurate.
Gary Reeder also built me a Custom G2 in 38-40 using a McGowan 24" barrel. I've pushed the 200 grn to almost 2000 fps in it.
The event of sturdy Starline Brass, Lee Factory Crimp Die and a multitude of bullets for the 40 S&W and 10mm has changed everything. The Lee Factory Crimp Die does not require the bullet have a cannelure.
My Clements Gun is a reworked Blackhawk 10mm-40. Thus far, it's the most accurate revolver I've fired over 32 Caliber.
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