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Post by Thunderjet on May 20, 2020 10:46:22 GMT -5
Is there any reason to go faster than 1250 fps with a 325 grain bullet in a 475/480 for killing a whitetail under 50 yards?
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Post by squigz on May 20, 2020 10:55:08 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I took my whitetail this year with a 385gr bullet at around 1000 fps in a 480 Ruger. Shot was about 35 yards.
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Post by taffin on May 20, 2020 11:01:03 GMT -5
Is there any reason to go faster than 1250 fps with a 325 grain bullet in a 475/480 for killing a whitetail under 50 yards? A 250 @ 1200 fps will go in one side and out the other on deer. A 400 at 1120 fps in a .480 gives total broadside penetration on a huge trophy-size bison. 1200 with a .44 Keith totally penetrates 500+ pound feral pigs.
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Post by whitworth on May 20, 2020 11:03:08 GMT -5
An expanding bullet I assume (judging by the weight)? If yes, by all means. Deer are very susceptible to fast expanding bullets. They will do a lot of damage. Not hard to kill a deer, but I really like to put them down right now. In some of the places I hunt them, there is a real good chance even a terminally wounded deer can make it onto a neighboring property making recovery problematic. JMHO. Not hard to get full penetration with nearly any bullet besides a frangible varmint-type bullet.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on May 20, 2020 11:56:55 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Thunderjet on May 20, 2020 12:10:37 GMT -5
I been thinking of making it easy for myself and using the Speer jacketed 325 in my 475/480 revolver. The Speers are pretty inexpensive so would like to give them a chance if others had good luck. Never killed a critter with anything bigger than a 454 Casull (Alaskan moose) so thought I would solicit the opinion of the experts:)
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Post by squigz on May 20, 2020 12:26:52 GMT -5
I been thinking of making it easy for myself and using the Speer jacketed 325 in my 475/480 revolver. The Speers are pretty inexpensive so would like to give them a chance if others had good luck. Never killed a critter with anything bigger than a 454 Casull (Alaskan moose) so thought I would solicit the opinion of the experts:) I can speak to that bullet personally in my 480 Ruger as it's what I used prior too switching to cast 385gr HPs. I am running those 325's with 2400 at around 1350 FPS. This isn't chronographed data, it's estimated based off the data from Speer's website and the load I used that was most accurate for me. I had an opportunity to take a Pennsylvania Black Bear with this load; the shot was roughly 60 yards downhill. I hit the bear the first shot and rolled it over, the second shot connected as it was going away. Both shots were complete pass through, not hitting any bones. From the meat and the hide I did not notice much expansion on the bullet between the entrance and exit wounds. I don't want to say I was disappointed in the bullet, but I wasn't thrilled either; they just didn't quite meet my expectations. Be it from the shot that I took or whatever other factors, I'm not sure. I have some of the 275's that I would like to try in the future, but the bullets I'm shooting now (again 385gr cast HPs) worked and expended wonderfully on my whitetail I harvested this past season, I don't see much of a need to immediately go into testing the 275's.
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Post by Thunderjet on May 20, 2020 12:46:39 GMT -5
Hmmm.……..maybe I will pick up a couple of boxes of Barnes 275 gr and see how they expand on a deer.
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Post by squigz on May 20, 2020 12:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by Thunderjet on May 20, 2020 12:56:02 GMT -5
I realize that, just thinking out loud to maybe try the Barnes. I have good luck with them expanding in muzzle loaders so hoping they do the same out of a revolver. Have 6 months to figure it out:)
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Post by jfs on May 20, 2020 15:14:51 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I took my whitetail this year with a 385gr bullet at around 1000 fps in a 480 Ruger. Shot was about 35 yards.
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Post by sixshot on May 20, 2020 15:37:24 GMT -5
Deer aren't hard to kill but by necessity a lot of whitetails need to be put down fast. We all want a fast clean kill but with whitetails & hunting on private property a lot of times it's important to get them on the ground quick so a fast expanding bullet, put in the right place & hopefully exiting will save the headache of having a deer get onto anther piece of property. I think another problem with whitetails that gets overlooked sometimes, maybe I'm wrong here but I'm going to throw it out there, is angles. A lot of whitetails are shot from elevated stands & that can change everything. Because of the angle I think sometimes the shooter misses one lung & doesn't realize it, I could be wrong here but I hear stories of hunters calling good hits & the deer running a long way & getting out of sight, that shouldn't be happening. I've killed a lot of whitetails but maybe only 3-4 from a stand, all the others have been on the ground where the shot was level, straight in, straight out. Also some people are lung shooters, others are high shoulder shot shooters, that can make a difference on how far a deer travels. A deer can cover some ground in only 4-5 seconds even mortally wounded, maybe enough to get onto another piece of property. A deer that is put down hard & decisive is the best insurance that I know of, how you get there comes from good old experience.
Dick
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Post by Thunderjet on May 20, 2020 16:07:49 GMT -5
Deer aren't hard to kill but by necessity a lot of whitetails need to be put down fast. We all want a fast clean kill but with whitetails & hunting on private property a lot of times it's important to get them on the ground quick so a fast expanding bullet, put in the right place & hopefully exiting will save the headache of having a deer get onto anther piece of property. I think another problem with whitetails that gets overlooked sometimes, maybe I'm wrong here but I'm going to throw it out there, is angles. A lot of whitetails are shot from elevated stands & that can change everything. Because of the angle I think sometimes the shooter misses one lung & doesn't realize it, I could be wrong here but I hear stories of hunters calling good hits & the deer running a long way & getting out of sight, that shouldn't be happening. I've killed a lot of whitetails but maybe only 3-4 from a stand, all the others have been on the ground where the shot was level, straight in, straight out. Also some people are lung shooters, others are high shoulder shot shooters, that can make a difference on how far a deer travels. A deer can cover some ground in only 4-5 seconds even mortally wounded, maybe enough to get onto another piece of property. A deer that is put down hard & decisive is the best insurance that I know of, how you get there comes what good old experience. Dick I know exactly what you mean because our primary stand is about 15 feet up. Wife and I constantly tell ourselves to always be thinking about where the bullet will exit before making a shot.
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Post by jessb57 on May 21, 2020 10:34:01 GMT -5
I have had very good luck with the Speer 275 grain GHP bullets on Iowa whitetails. I was running them at 1550 to 1600 fps. I think they would work fine at 1400 fps. All the extra velocity does is give you a little more range. I have shot deer drt at 75yards with with that bullet. Jess B.
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Post by sixshot on May 21, 2020 11:34:07 GMT -5
Isn't that Speer Gold Dot a 270 gr bullet? Maybe I'm wrong, either way it's a dandy bullet. I make a 273-275 gr cast HP that is an absolute hammer on deer from any large frame 45 with good loads. There's no fence jumping when it hit's home plate. I use the medium HP pins most of the time.
Dick
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