Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 5, 2020 15:47:14 GMT -5
Both of those would be my personal minimums, regarding Grizzly or brown bears......480 or 454 would be where adequate would start for me,...and what I grab out of my safe when I’m in grizzly country is my little 500L. For black bear, either would be more than adequate.
Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 5, 2020 17:14:19 GMT -5
Recoil management determines return to firing condition, and then you need accuracy. Sure a DA can be fired “faster” by the average person, or so it would seem?!?! But sights need to be reacquired and in that amount of time a hammer can be recocked, much the same way that a really good pump shotgunner can run it faster than an average shooter can run an auto shotgun, and hit what they’re aiming at. The biggest benefit a DA revolver has against a SA is its ability to be fired one handed.
You need accuracy in order for a handgun to be effective, RIGHT NOW!!! Against a bear attack, I’d rather one accurate shot than an empty gun and an occasional hit.
Better be something you can fire rapid follow-up shots with accuracy while you are dealing with adrenaline! Double actions usually preferred, I would think.
I find single-actions infinitely faster and easier to shoot in heavy recoiling calibers than a DA revolver. But that’s just me.
I am in agreement with Whitworth on this. when I was younger , 1950s through the 80s I hunted with hounds. Our state outlawed hound hunting in the 90s . some of the fellas bought the Blackhawks in 357 thinking it was the kill all gun. I was packing a colt SA in 44-40. when I was able to I got a SBH 44 magnum. I never felt under gunned , but I always shoot heavy bullets 270-300gr.. When the action get hairy you have to be able to hit what your shooting at period. I can still shoot my 44 pretty fast and hit what I'm shooting at. Practice Practice Practice ! If you can't hit a Bull in the butt with a skillet you don't need a skillet.
My wife and I've been 3 feet away from a very angry, pissed off, ill-tempered, mad-dog mean, grizzly. We were just outside Glacier Park on the Blackfoot Reservation sleeping in a tent. Live and learn or learn to die.
The story passed to me about the top gun, a Gallagher built 500 Linebaugh, is that John built it for a friend as a fishing carry gun for Alaska. Guess that qualifies it as a bear gun. It is a handful with 525 grains Miha bullets over full loads of H110. Pics of my hand after firing it (forgot my glove) can be found elsewhere on the forum.
The bottom gun is my own general carry gun. My son, however, has carried it while elk hunting as backup. Loaded with 340 grain bullets over a full load of H110, it is also an attention getter, though less so than the Gallagher. It has a modified Bisley hammer, BP chamfer, a proper freespin set up and, just for Bushog, a trigger overtravel stop. Work by me, mostly with Hamilton looking over my shoulder. Factory fake case color, well rusted, worn, scratched and oiled. My highest round count revolver.
Last Edit: Mar 5, 2020 19:44:16 GMT -5 by princeout
"Some guns are simply infested with evil spirits, and no amount of study and adjustment will frustrate these malignant agents." H. Bowen; "The Custom Revolver"
My personal take is that one will be fortunate to get off a single aimed shot before the bear is, literally, on top of them. DA or SA isn't going to matter at that point. Pick a suitable gun that you shoot well, and practice extensively shooting at bouncing, bobbing football-sized targets.
'I've a feeling we aren't in Kansas any more, Toto!' Dorothy, The Wizard of Oz.