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Post by simple45 on Jan 23, 2020 16:10:59 GMT -5
Like most of you I love the old classics. I have always liked the look of the old .38/44 heavy duty’s and their outdoorsman siblings. I have a like new outdoorsman I came across that was made in 1950 no box but it has a Jenks letter with it. the price is 1100. Anyone with this model or helpful knowledge about the gun how it shoots etc I would appreciate. I haven’t bought it yet but it’s on my mind. I would definitely be using this gun it wouldn’t be a collector but I can appreciate it’s like new condition the craftsmanship in this gun is amazing. Thanks
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Post by x101airborne on Jan 23, 2020 16:46:20 GMT -5
1100? Just pulling your chain, but tell me where it is and I will make you wish you had bought it! LOL. And like you, I wouldn't abuse it, but I WOULD occasionally carry it and shoot it a lot.
I own an Outdoorsman with half the nickel coming off and it shoots everything I feed it to the sights. Mostly 158 grain SWC's over 3.7 grains of Bullseye and a standard primer. I don't do lighter bullets much.
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Post by simple45 on Jan 23, 2020 16:50:23 GMT -5
1100? Just pulling your chain, but tell me where it is and I will make you wish you had bought it! LOL. And like you, I wouldn't abuse it, but I WOULD occasionally carry it and shoot it a lot. Haha. I would definitely be shooting it a lot. I have a range out to 300 and feel this gun would be great for slinging long range lead and carry around the farm. . I feel 1100 is a little high but considering it’s 70 years old and outside of a custom no factory gun comes close I did offer 1000 with no success.
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Post by x101airborne on Jan 23, 2020 16:54:05 GMT -5
My opinion only, and my wife says I like guns too much, I would slam 1100 down on the table and run like hell!
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Post by simple45 on Jan 23, 2020 16:57:19 GMT -5
My opinion only, and my wife says I like guns too much, I would slam 1100 down on the table and run like hell! Your a bad influence haha but I can’t say I think much differently.
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Post by Frank V on Jan 24, 2020 11:43:32 GMT -5
Did you get it??? Hope so, those aren't betig made any more.
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Post by simple45 on Jan 24, 2020 16:37:41 GMT -5
Did you get it??? Hope so, those aren't betig made any more. The seller took it to a gun show this weekend to see if he could get what he wanted for it. He was asking 1300 I got him to somewhat accept 1100. It’s really nice almost looks unfired. I have had my eye on a Colt SAA .45 to so I didn’t throw down the cash. guess I’ll have the eeekekf to think it over and if it doesn’t sell I’ll have a chance at it.
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Post by Frank V on Jan 24, 2020 17:54:22 GMT -5
Ok, those are really nice.
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Post by simple45 on Jan 24, 2020 18:28:21 GMT -5
Ok, those are really nice. Do you own one? I’m assuming you have shot one? I have never shot one but obviously due to the size of it and it’s caliber I know it should be one heck of a shooter. He had a walnut presentation case with it. I just did talk to him on the phone and he said he would take 1000 for it without the smith walnut presentation case. He does also have a Jenks letter with it.
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Post by taffin on Jan 24, 2020 18:42:15 GMT -5
Like most of you I love the old classics. I have always liked the look of the old .38/44 heavy duty’s and their outdoorsman siblings. I have a like new outdoorsman I came across that was made in 1950 no box but it has a Jenks letter with it. the price is 1100. Anyone with this model or helpful knowledge about the gun how it shoots etc I would appreciate. I haven’t bought it yet but it’s on my mind. I would definitely be using this gun it wouldn’t be a collector but I can appreciate it’s like new condition the craftsmanship in this gun is amazing. Thanks How it shoots??? Are you serious??? Of course they shoot! They are some of the finest sixguns Smith & Wesson ever produced. In Fact, Dick Casull used his as an example of how Freedom Arms .454s should be built. The 6-1/2" Outdoorsman can nip at the heels of a .357 Magnum when using the Keith .38 Heavy Duty load. Look up my article on "Who Needs A Magnum."
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Post by simple45 on Jan 24, 2020 19:08:22 GMT -5
Thankyou mr.taffin! your input is highly valued I’ll check out that article.
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Post by jgt on Jan 26, 2020 9:24:19 GMT -5
Great guns, but I would not consider them scarce.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 26, 2020 10:19:34 GMT -5
"I love the old classics. I have always liked the look of the old .38/44 heavy duty’s and their outdoorsman siblings.” ----simple45
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Back when an NRA condition rating meant something, I had a pre-war (1930’s) .38/40 Outdoorsman. The Outdoorsman is the adjustable sight version of the fixed sight .38/40 Heavy Duty. My Outdoorsman would grade high NRA Very Good, which in those days put it about a half-inch below Mint. 6-1/2” barrel, .38 S&W Special chambering, and the old adjustable sight, polished to blend into the top strap. An action smooth as cream, and shot like a house afire. But it couldn't displace the M-29 6-1/2” which lived on my hip, so I mostly kept it oiled and pristine. Don’t remember what I paid for it in a paper mill town gun shop; $150 sounds about right. Eventually it became a bit more valuable and when handgun silhouette came along, I sold it to further my steel shooting.
According to 125 Years with Smith & Wesson, by Roy Jinks, Smith & Wesson made the .38/40 Outdoorsman from 1931 to 1941----production halted for World war II----with 4,761 produced. The Outdoorsman is the sporting offshoot of the 1930 .38/40 Heavy Duty, which the war stopped at 11,111. David Bradshaw
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Post by Frank V on Jan 26, 2020 13:25:01 GMT -5
Ok, those are really nice. Do you own one? I’m assuming you have shot one? I have never shot one but obviously due to the size of it and it’s caliber I know it should be one heck of a shooter. He had a walnut presentation case with it. I just did talk to him on the phone and he said he would take 1000 for it without the smith walnut presentation case. He does also have a Jenks letter with it. I don't own one. I have shot a friends 5" & it's one sweet shooting handgun. If I ever get a chance to trade into one I just might.
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Post by simple45 on Jan 26, 2020 15:24:42 GMT -5
Thankyou for your input Mr Bradshaw. This one was made in 1950 a post war model. it’s definitely 90% plus condition I would rate very good. the owner called me today and told me he would take 1000 for it. I’m a .44/.45 guy but this gun sure feels like a sweet shooter and attracts me. I might just give him a call in the morning. I’ve got a 300 yard range and with some heavy bullet loads this gun feels like it would just send them out there.
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