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Post by apolitical45 on Jan 9, 2020 10:04:22 GMT -5
I have had this DW for years and it shoots lights out, but has no model number. It has a 6" barrel with 2" of compensator and it keeps the muzzle down for sure. It also has a rib that is not vented, which seems rare to me though I posture not as to be one in the know. It is the only DW I've owned and I'm considering selling/trading it, but the lack of information is frustrating and the fact that it's a Palmer gun doesn't help, even though this thing sings at 100 yards and further. Does anyone have info or any attempt at value? What you see is it. No box, barrels or belt buckle. I fell in love with it when I fired it and peeled it off a friend, but it just collects dust and has for some time now. It's in great shape and puts them where you point it, but that's about all I know.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 9, 2020 11:22:30 GMT -5
If you want to sell it you may post a LINK to another site, but you may not advertise or sell it on Singleactions. OK to inquire about value and info. David Bradshaw
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jan 9, 2020 11:27:34 GMT -5
BTW... I've not seen one with the solid sight rib, but mine are / were both Monson guns so maybe the newer shrouds had a solid rib???
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jan 9, 2020 11:40:52 GMT -5
It has a knurled knob on the muzzle as well???......interesting.
Trapr
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Post by matt56 on Jan 9, 2020 12:35:55 GMT -5
I’d say it’s a run of the mill model 15 from the Palmer era but the barrel configuration is uncommon. Is it a fixed barrel or does it have a removable barrel nut?
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Post by oddshooter on Jan 9, 2020 13:05:16 GMT -5
"Shoots lights out !!!"
Man, I wouldn't let that go on a bet ! If you absolutely need cash, that's always different. Thanks for the photos. We all love pics. Welcome and stick around.
I don't think you will get anywhere near what I think is the real value for that (Model 15/Model 15-2?). So few folks know about the DWs they just don't seem to get the price for what it is. A beautiful fit and finish on a beautiful design. No one makes anything like it today.
Order some new barrels and get a little variety. GunBroker and the new owners, CZ, have them occasionally.
As far as the rib being vented, I believe the DW terminology is "slotted shroud". I have not seen one on any models but the DW Super Mags. Your shroud may be what is called the "Heavy" because it is full lug. It looks like the shroud and barrel may be compensated or ported right behind the front sight. I hope you are able to get the barrel nut off the end and be able to remove the shroud. That is one of the downsides to porting. You may need some Kroll penetrating oil.
Can ya tell, I'm kind of a fan boy for DW. The DanWessonForum.com is excellent for info and support.
I went to gunbroker.com, selected Advanced Search, selected the Completed Auctions tab, entered "dan wesson 357" and saw from $450 to $995 (did not sell). Go there and see lots of history and decide what is yours worth on the market.
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Post by apolitical45 on Jan 9, 2020 14:03:01 GMT -5
If you want to sell it you may post a LINK to another site, but you may not advertise or sell it on Singleactions. OK to inquire about value and info. David Bradshaw Value and info, especially as to the specific questions that I posed, is what I seek. I am ignorant as to what I have and the configuration and I was hoping that someone with direct insight such as yourself could offer at least an opinion if not an answer.
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Post by apolitical45 on Jan 9, 2020 14:12:35 GMT -5
I’d say it’s a run of the mill model 15 from the Palmer era but the barrel configuration is uncommon. Is it a fixed barrel or does it have a removable barrel nut? It has the nut. The right side of the frame has three lines "WESSON FIREARMS" in the top line, "PALMER, MASS. U.S.A." in the second and "357B004753" in the third. The right side of the barrel has "357 MAGNUM CTG.". The left side of the revolver is entirely bare. There are no markings in the crane, either. I think it's a DW factory barrel, but I really don't know.
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Post by apolitical45 on Jan 9, 2020 14:23:13 GMT -5
"Shoots lights out !!!" Man, I wouldn't let that go on a bet ! If you absolutely need cash, that's always different. Thanks for the photos. We all love pics. Welcome and stick around. I don't think you will get anywhere near what I think is the real value for that (Model 15/Model 15-2?). So few folks know about the DWs they just don't seem to get the price for what it is. A beautiful fit and finish on a beautiful design. No one makes anything like it today. Order some new barrels and get a little variety. GunBroker and the new owners, CZ, have them occasionally. As far as the rib being vented, I believe the DW terminology is "slotted shroud". I have not seen one on any models but the DW Super Mags. Your shroud may be what is called the "Heavy" because it is full lug. It looks like the shroud and barrel may be compensated or ported right behind the front sight. I hope you are able to get the barrel nut off the end and be able to remove the shroud. That is one of the downsides to porting. You may need some Kroll penetrating oil. Can ya tell, I'm kind of a fan boy for DW. The DanWessonForum.com is excellent for info and support. I went to gunbroker.com, selected Advanced Search, selected the Completed Auctions tab, entered "dan wesson 357" and saw from $450 to $995 (did not sell). Go there and see lots of history and decide what is yours worth on the market. Prescut I am not needing to sell it, it simply does not get the use I intended when I picked it up years ago. I am a single action guy and they always get preference. I appreciate your insight. I can remove the nut but have decided not to go further due purely to ignorance and lack of familiarity. I had no idea there was a DW forum, but why wouldn't there be? The rib, slotted shroud and a complete lack of model number are the big ones.
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Post by apolitical45 on Jan 9, 2020 14:47:03 GMT -5
BTW... I've not seen one with the solid sight rib, but mine are / were both Monson guns so maybe the newer shrouds had a solid rib??? I can't find another .357 with a solid rib at all, both Palmer and Monson manufacture. I guess I'd feel better if I saw one that had my configuration and without model markings of any kind. For all I know it's an aftermarket barrel, though I doubt it.
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Post by squigz on Jan 9, 2020 14:50:46 GMT -5
I'm not seeing anything, but the Dan Wesson forum has a list of owned serial numbers. One of the guns in the 15-2 list is close to your serial number, so I'm wondering if it's a 15-2. Go to the below link, and there's a PDF link within there that you can open and see some serial numbers of owned revolvers. www.danwessonforum.com/ufaqs/when-was-my-dan-wesson-manufactured/I would also try contacting Dan Wesson, maybe they would have a record of the serial number or something might have the history of guns in your configuration. I've never seen one set up, and it's making me think that it's aftermarket, but that's purely speculation.
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Post by apolitical45 on Jan 9, 2020 15:05:56 GMT -5
I'm not seeing anything, but the Dan Wesson forum has a list of owned serial numbers. One of the guns in the 15-2 list is close to your serial number, so I'm wondering if it's a 15-2. Go to the below link, and there's a PDF link within there that you can open and see some serial numbers of owned revolvers. www.danwessonforum.com/ufaqs/when-was-my-dan-wesson-manufactured/I would also try contacting Dan Wesson, maybe they would have a record of the serial number or something might have the history of guns in your configuration. I've never seen one set up, and it's making me think that it's aftermarket, but that's purely speculation. Wow. That's very interesting. The first thing I noticed when opening the link was the "EWK" advertisement and the lettering on the barrel in the ad! Even more interesting, EWK doesn't appear to sell solid ribs on their shrouds. I will try to contact first DW, then EWK.
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Post by 41freak on Jan 9, 2020 15:20:11 GMT -5
While I am no DW expert, I think it was compensated after the fact. I have several compensated barrel assemblies and all have the rear sight mounted behind the cuts, I have never seen the sight in front of them. Also a couple of pics of the barrel and shroud separated would help. If the barrel nut is removed does the barrel stop before the cuts in the shroud and secured with another nut? It looks to me like someone may have had a ported barrel and cut the shroud to allow venting??
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 9, 2020 15:31:59 GMT -5
Unfamiliar with the Palmer, MA Dan Wessons. The interchangeable barrel concept works best on Warren Center’s Contender, where all it takes is to unscrew the forend, poke out the action pin, insert new barrel. As the iron sights or a scope attach to the barrel, and providing it’s doped, it is unnecessary to sight-in. Whereas, to turn your silhouette Dan Wesson into a belly gun requires quite a monkey drill, followed by sighting in.
Prior to introduction of the large, solid frame Model 44, DWA sent me one, with 6 and 8-inch barrel assemblies. Believe it was at this time DWA introduced Power Control----8 holes poked into the grooves behind the muzzle, venting into a gutter counterbored in the Vent Heavy shroud, exiting gas to either side of the front sight. Superfluous, as the gun has the lightest recoil of any cannon in its class. As Prescut intones, the porting seemed specially designed to weld the muzzle nut. DWA received my immediate recommendation to ditch the porting. Apparently, the porting caper hung on for dear life, dressed differently on your M-15. Larry Kelly of Mag-na-Port threatened to sue Dan Wesson Arms, as he was sure DWA used EDM (Electron Discharge Machining) to port the M-44 .44 Mag. Kelly’s Mag-na-Port patents were still in effect at that time.
Don’t recognize your knurled muzzle nut. Fingers will not do to tighten or loosen the muzzle nut. To back up Prescut once more, the M-15 was a mighty-might in silhouette, its 1:18-3/4” twist adequate for superb accuracy with 180 grain rifle bullets. David Bradshaw
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Post by oddshooter on Jan 9, 2020 18:20:00 GMT -5
To have David say nice things about something I wrote made my day. I'm only a lowly padawan learner. David is the Jedi master. He was there with Yoda (Bill Ruger) when they discovered "THE FORCE" (357 Maximum). If David recommended to DWA "ditch the porting", that should have been gospel.
The EWK owner is one great guy to deal with. He has almost single handedly kept many of our DWs running. I just acquired one of the very rare, Dan Wesson IHMSA Field Pistols in 32 H&Rmag. Spent a small fortune because I have never seen another one for sale.
My Grail Gun is the Dan Wesson Kit (model 322?) in 32-20 8VH with multiple barrel lengths. I've never even seen one, except in Google Images.
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