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Post by lscg on Dec 25, 2019 16:40:47 GMT -5
The hybrid ibex are beginning to be more common and there are several sheep species on the ranches with huge horns. Transcaspian Urial's? I've seen a few up close and they are mighty impressive sheep. I haven't seen them but i heard Thompson Temple was breeding a Bighorn and Urial cross that gets really big. |
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Post by lscg on Dec 25, 2019 16:46:29 GMT -5
I got some big aoudad horns from a buddy at The Record Buck Ranch and they weren't thick enough. Did they come from a ram or a ewe? I cut up some ewe horns i had and they were too thin. was hoping a rams would be thicker. |
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Post by bushog on Dec 25, 2019 17:22:54 GMT -5
I got some big aoudad horns from a buddy at The Record Buck Ranch and they weren't thick enough. Did they come from a ram or a ewe? I cut up some ewe horns i had and they were too thin. was hoping a rams would be thicker. Ram...it was kinda a medium sized one. |
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Post by bushog on Dec 25, 2019 17:23:57 GMT -5
I got some big aoudad horns from a buddy at The Record Buck Ranch and they weren't thick enough. I’ve hunted that ranch at Utopia. There are lots of different horns on that place. Curtis. Meet a guy named "Burr"? |
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Post by eskimo36 on Dec 25, 2019 18:03:54 GMT -5
I remember a guide there named Burr but I didn’t hunt with him. It’s an awesome ranch.
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Post by caryc on Dec 25, 2019 18:13:13 GMT -5
Here's some more info on Merino Ram's horn. As I said, I made many sets of rams horn grips and I got all of the blanks from Jantz. Like I said before, the horn slabs must be softened and flattened before they can be used. There are different methods so I don't know which Jantz used. Some used to boil them in oil or water to soften up the horn. Below is a pic of one of the blanks I got from Jantz. The lines in the back are actually where the horn split during flattening. These splits are less than 1/8" deep. A lot of the blanks I got from Jantz had splits in the back but they are really not a problem. I just filled them with a two part epoxy that dried clear then sanded them back back flat. They never sent me a set of blanks that I could not use.  |
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Post by cmh on Dec 25, 2019 18:19:32 GMT -5
Beautiful material!!!
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Post by magnumwheelman on Dec 26, 2019 9:41:08 GMT -5
We raise & eat Hair Sheep... most of ours are Katahdin which are a polled breed, but we do have an American Blackbelly Ewe... her ram lamb bred by our Katahdin ram had a full curl within the 9 months we usually raise for butchering the lambs... hair sheep are very "goat like" in care & durability, but they don't challenge the fences the way goats do... they don't climb trees, & I've only had them out of the pasture, when I'd forgotten to chain the gates... we feed ours just enough whole grain, to keep them "addicted" so a bucket with a cup of grain, will move them easily from pasture to pasture... Black Bellies are well known for huge horns on the rams, & I've been wanting to get a black belly ram to use along side with my Katahdin ram... we have 7 breeding ewes, one is full blackbelly, & one ( a calico ) is half blackbelly www.google.com/search?q=american+blackbelly+ram&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS753US753&sxsrf=ACYBGNRBT1-rYG8Qk4qIdY3deW6fEtrXbQ:1577370650292&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=bMf5g5UjwOHBhM%253A%252CnDMblp6qhLqctM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRZPWO4CdF8zapHLbEfIPO7XvckKA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdo6jKw9PmAhXRuZ4KHaA4AAAQ_h0wFnoECAUQBQ#imgrc=bMf5g5UjwOHBhM:Hair sheep almost seem to prefer noxious weeds... when I open up a new pasture... the 1st things eaten are Rag Weed & Cockle burrs... they are resistant to parasites, & shed the wool like a dog, so they don't require shearing... & the meat is excellent to eat our black belly ewe with her 2 lambs from last spring  |
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Post by Joe S. on Dec 26, 2019 14:14:44 GMT -5
I’m liking what i just read about hair sheep. I know goats are a challenge to keep fenced. Ours was pretty much free range because our fences sucked.
I did read the other day that you just about have to have two pastures at minimum so you can let one grow while they eat the other. I wonder if i fenced in my woods if they’d clean up all the vines and undergrowth we have. That would be nice.
What type of fencing do you have?
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Post by magnumwheelman on Dec 26, 2019 19:49:31 GMT -5
Yes.... they clear out the woods nicely... just need to wrap the trunks of the trees you want to keep with a finer fence ( I buy scrap chain link to wrap around the trunks ) they’ll strip the bark on everything but black walnut so far, around my place
I use cattle panels for fencing ( hoping to do a few cattle when I get I get enough pasture space done ) I’m setting up a paddock system of 1/2 to 1 acre pastures... 5 done so far, goal is 10 - 12
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Post by Joe S. on Dec 26, 2019 20:53:37 GMT -5
Cool. I may be reaching out to you in the future if you don’t mind. Gonna start clearing some woods i want cleared anyway and tearing out old fencing then try to get some good fencing put up. It will be a 2-3 year project I’d guess before i buy my first goat/ sheep, but I think that’s the direction i want to go.
Sorry for the hijack... but it’s my own thread so i guess that’s ok. Haha
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