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Post by rWt on Nov 19, 2019 10:58:37 GMT -5
I am curious to know how the M.O.A trigger has performed. Is it an improvement on the older trigger I used on pre-64 M70's?
Did Winchester make a post-64 M70 in .243 with the pre-64 CRF action and with the older trigger in stainless steel?
Thanks. I can't find such a rifle described anywhere.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 22, 2019 10:30:09 GMT -5
I am curious to know how the M.O.A trigger has performed. Is it an improvement on the older trigger I used on pre-64 M70's? Did Winchester make a post-64 M70 in .243 with the pre-64 CRF action and with the older trigger in stainless steel? Thanks. I can't find such a rifle described anywhere. ***** My guess would be Yes, under USRAC, Winchester the Mauser-type Model 70 Classic in stainless and blue at the New Haven factory, around 1990. I handled a stainless short action M-70 Classic .308 Win at a range in Mississippi in the mid-1990’s. It would make sense that the same rifle was offered in the fine .243 Winchester, for which sales had thoroughly displaced the equally great 6mm Remington. (In fact, I like the 6mm Remington more, but nothing hit with either will know the difference.) The M-70 Classic had the M-70’s OPEN TRIGGER. While a BOX TRIGGER may be made to break a bit cleaner & lighter, it also is more susceptible to accumulated gradou. Notice most military rifles sport an open trigger. I would not trade the M-70 trigger for a box trigger. When Browning took over manufacture of the M-70, the open trigger was replaced with a box trigger. The Brownings I’ve handled are beautiful and there would be no reason to pine for the old M-70 trigger. I have used a length of Model 1911 firing pin spring to replace the automobile spring that came on the Winchester M-70 Classic trigger. I have made some difficult shots with the old M-70 open trigger. And, who knows how many Wimbledon Cups have been won with the old Model 70 and its open trigger? It was a fraud for Winchester to call its low-rent copy of the Remington M-700 a “Model 70,” as though it had not discontinued the original. Some of the faux Model 70’s were very smooth, but the stock resembled a railroad tie and kicked like a mule. The damage was done, as assuredly as corrupting the Model 94, with management hanging on to the Winchester trademark like a kid who refuses to be weaned. David Bradshaw
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Post by rWt on Nov 22, 2019 20:51:38 GMT -5
I may have found a Classic M 70 featherweight with the open trigger. Problem is that it’s only $250 less than a pre-64 featherweight that's for sale.
On another note, I’m not sure that I want such a light gun. I shoot a heavier rifle better. I had no trouble qualifying expert with an M14, but struggled to make it with an M16. For what I want to use it for, I have started looking at pre-64 varmint rifles.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 23, 2019 11:57:27 GMT -5
I may have found a Classic M 70 featherweight with the open trigger. Problem is that it’s only $250 less than a pre-64 featherweight that's for sale. On another note, I’m not sure that I want such a light gun. I shoot a heavier rifle better. I had no trouble qualifying expert with an M14, but struggled to make it with an M16. For what I want to use it for, I have started looking at pre-64 varmint rifles. ***** rwt..... reckon my pre-64 M-70 Featherweight built in 1952 was one of the earliest in .308 Winchester. It had the old M-70 stock with pre-War drop at the comb, as honest a piece of straight-grained black walnut as there ever was. Inletted so close it near made a sucking sound as you removed the barreled action. The Featherweight was not a lightweight. Anodized aluminum trigger guard, slightly lighter 22” barrel; today no-one would call it a lightweight. Action smooth as cream. Sold it to further my hitch in Handgun Silhouette. I know guys who restocked their pre-64’s to speed handling and drop weight----in this case separate subjects----while keeping the original stock undinged. For a while I campaigned a commercial Husqvarna 98 Mauser, the best of all Mausers without provision for stripper clip and ejector slot below left locking lug; despite the European drop-at-comb it shouldered faster & straighter than the pre-64 M-70. The pistol grip is why, with Husqvarna representing the best grip conformation ever put to a bolt action, while the pre-64 M-70 represents the worst. In sum, to restock a pre-64 makes perfect sense. Keep original stock original; pillar bed and full float the aftermarket handle. David Bradshaw
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Post by kooz on Nov 23, 2019 13:04:57 GMT -5
I would not sweat the new MOA trigger, if you don't like the trigger , for $100 you can throw in a Timmney trigger your self in about 10 minutes . I have a few of the new m-70's and have also owned older m-70's . I like the new ones, the fit and finish is excellent on mine and they are sub MOA guns . Here is a nice looking one on CDNN, I know it is not a .243, but pretty close . www.cdnnsports.com/winchester-70-featherweight-6-5-creedmoor-walnut.html?___SID=U#.XdlzjndFyUk
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Post by tj3006 on Nov 26, 2019 21:11:02 GMT -5
I had a very early pre64 featherweight, in .308 once too, that thing would put 150 grain bullets into tiny clusters with either IMR 4064 or W 748, I have had pre64 featherweights in .270 and 06 too, the 06s shoot good, but i could not get a pre 64 featherweight 270 to shoot well at all, and i spent some money trying to !
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