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Post by savit260 on Nov 16, 2019 10:38:55 GMT -5
Been giving some serious thought to picking up a 454 Alaskan Snubbie. Thinking it might be a fun double action that could share ammo with my 45 Colt single actions, and also load up some mid-range(Ruger only type) 454 Casull rounds without having to worry about the hot stuff finding its way into the 45 Colt single actions.
If anybody is willing to share their thoughts and experiences what's the Alaskan I'd love to hear it.
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Post by tj3006 on Nov 16, 2019 11:09:43 GMT -5
I would think it would be a fun gun for the right guy !
I find the super redhawk and even the redhawk frame just do damn big for my hands. But i am sort of a smallish guy, i am 5,7 and 170. I would recommend holding and if possible firing a super redhawk in any configuration.
I ordered a redhawk on Cabelas a few years back. It was just to much of a reach for me. But when i rested it, it was accurate as hell !
I like your Idea of a .454 and using reduced loads in .454 cases to prevent accidents. I am doing the same thing, with reeder building me a Black Widow, 5 shot .454. I will not likely ever need all that power, But i might push the safe pressure of my 6 shot Ruger .45 LC. So i will have all my hotter stuff loaded in .454 cases. ...tj
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Post by savit260 on Nov 16, 2019 11:18:13 GMT -5
I would think it would be a fun gun for the right guy ! I find the super redhawk and even the redhawk frame just do damn big for my hands. But i am sort of a smallish guy, i am 5,7 and 170. I would recommend holding and if possible firing a super redhawk in any configuration. I ordered a redhawk on Cabelas a few years back. It was just to much of a reach for me. But when i rested it, it was accurate as hell ! I like your Idea of a .454 and using reduced loads in .454 cases to prevent accidents. I am doing the same thing, with reeder building me a Black Widow, 5 shot .454. I will not likely ever need all that power, But i might push the safe pressure of my 6 shot Ruger .45 LC. So i will have all my hotter stuff loaded in .454 cases. ...tj Ive had a 5 1/2" 44 mag Redhawk for years and get along with it's ergonomics real well. Handled a 44 Alaskan the other day and was surprised at how well it balanced. Figured it would be rear heavy toward the grips, but didn't feel that way at all. |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 16, 2019 12:05:19 GMT -5
I have one that will be listed on Gun Broker Sunday... I have a 480 Alaskan I’m keeping
When I 1st bought it, everyone was telling me I was going to be whacking myself in the head shooting it... I will admit I was nervous pulling the trigger the 1st time, but it was no where near what I expected, or was warned about... yep there is some recoil... but not that brutal... I expect the shorter barrel reduces the felt recoil... the only issue I had with mine, was the muzzle blast, and the 480 has much less muzzle blast, and why I chose to keep that one
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Post by bula on Nov 16, 2019 17:36:46 GMT -5
What MWM said. Yup. In 454, and a case full'a H110 would be a fair to middlin' flame thrower too. But you'll see no band-aids on the forehead.
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Post by savit260 on Nov 20, 2019 20:58:36 GMT -5
Ordered up a new one from the LGS today.
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Post by savit260 on Nov 29, 2019 17:49:05 GMT -5
 The new Alaskan arrived today along with a package from Chigs grips. |
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Post by bula on Nov 29, 2019 18:35:29 GMT -5
Quite the lil cannons. Go forth and ventilate.
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Post by edk on Nov 30, 2019 7:13:22 GMT -5
Nice gun and the grip panels definitely add to the look.
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Post by bula on Nov 30, 2019 14:56:30 GMT -5
I've yet to swap mine, but the Alaskan seems to cry out for a F/O front. Just sayin'.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 30, 2019 14:59:20 GMT -5
Mine listed on Gun Broker right now has custom fiber optic front and rear sights... really like what I did with them... the 480 I’m keeping is set up the same way
And I agree... like the look of the grips and inserts... but on the “big” magnums I’ve come to appreciate the factory soft grips
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Post by savit260 on Nov 30, 2019 19:01:19 GMT -5
Mine listed on Gun Broker right now has custom fiber optic front and rear sights... really like what I did with them... the 480 I’m keeping is set up the same way And I agree... like the look of the grips and inserts... but on the “big” magnums I’ve come to appreciate the factory soft grips I doubt this will ever see anything stiffer than a heavy 45 Colt load. |
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Post by Alaskan454 on Dec 15, 2019 22:45:28 GMT -5
My username is based upon my love and former ownership of a 454 Alaskan model. They are great guns but the throats and barrels tend to run large. If that works for your loading habits they will serve you quite well. I only sold mine to replace it with a custom version of something very similar. Hoping to start that project soon actually.
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Post by bradshaw on Dec 16, 2019 8:04:43 GMT -5
"If anybody is willing to share their thoughts and experiences what's the Alaskan I'd love to hear it.”
----savit260
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Rather not fire a snubnose .454 in a cement hallway. Then-head of the Pine Tree foundry at Ruger, ceramics engineer Eric Unger created the Alaskan .454 Casull. Ungerthen went on to make a titanium Alaskan .454 Casull. He and Bill Ruger, Jr., decided the titanium howitzer was too much of a good thing. Aside from solving a major challenge in the lost wax casting of high integrity titanium, Unger is an avid hiker, including of the White Mountains in New Hampshire, terrain which has no compunction about killing persons whose enthusiasm exceeds their skill & stamina. He likes to pack a cannon and created the Alaskan for exactly that. As a bantamweight, Unger made a titanium Alaskan. Great as it carries, he says it was horrible to shoot.
Grip
My hand doesn’t get along with original SRH grip panels, which cause the trigger guard to hammer my middle finger. New-style Monogrip factory synthetics give the Alaskan purpose.
Load to the gun----Meatball Effect
Forget the horsepower race with a snubnose hand cannon. Velocity accelerates recoil. Even when desired velocity is not reached in short barrel. The snubnose .454 Casull with a heavy, Wide Flat Nose or Deep Hollow Point lead bullet----DEEP SEATED----should cover about everything you want from the little sixgun. With modular, solid-frame construction, unique lockup with offset ejector rod, and offset stop notches, the Redhawk & Super Redhawk remain the most hellbent double action ever made.
David Bradshaw
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Post by savit260 on Dec 16, 2019 18:45:58 GMT -5
"If anybody is willing to share their thoughts and experiences what's the Alaskan I'd love to hear it.” ----savit260 ***** Rather not fire a snubnose .454 in a cement hallway. Then-head of the Pine Tree foundry at Ruger, ceramics engineer Eric Unger created the Alaskan .454 Casull. Ungerthen went on to make a titanium Alaskan .454 Casull. He and Bill Ruger, Jr., decided the titanium howitzer was too much of a good thing. Aside from solving a major challenge in the lost wax casting of high integrity titanium, Unger is an avid hiker, including of the White Mountains in New Hampshire, terrain which has no compunction about killing persons whose enthusiasm exceeds their skill & stamina. He likes to pack a cannon and created the Alaskan for exactly that. As a bantamweight, Unger made a titanium Alaskan. Great as it carries, he says it was horrible to shoot. GripMy hand doesn’t get along with original SRH grip panels, which cause the trigger guard to hammer my middle finger. New-style Monogrip factory synthetics give the Alaskan purpose. Load to the gun----Meatball EffectForget the horsepower race with a snubnose hand cannon. Velocity accelerates recoil. Even when desired velocity is not reached in short barrel. The snubnose .454 Casull with a heavy, Wide Flat Nose or Deep Hollow Point lead bullet----DEEP SEATED----should cover about everything you want from the little sixgun. With modular, solid-frame construction, unique lockup with offset ejector rod, and offset stop notches, the Redhawk & Super Redhawk remain the most hellbent double action ever made. David Bradshaw Thanks for the input. It's interesting you mention the White Mountain area of New Hampshire as I wander around that area quite a bit living down in the Seacoast area. That's one of my favorite areas on Earth! Definitely not looking for maximum horsepower out of this gun. I've had it to the range a few times now loading a 255 grain swc with 10 grains of unique in 45 Colt brass and I'm extremely pleased with the results so far. Accuracy seems to be quite good at least at at least out to 25 yards. Haven't had the opportunity to stretch its legs beyond that yet. I've got some 454 brass on the way and will likely experiment with some similar loads deep-seated. Figure something roughly in this range would make a good all-around utility load without being punishing. The 10 grain load in Colt brass is quite pleasant actually. Will likely experiment with some heavier bullets at some point as well. The GP100 style grips work quite well for me at this power level and could likely Crank 'em up a good bit before giving me any grief. What does give me grief is the stickiness of the rubber grabbing my cover garment when carrying it. Working to try to find an acceptable solution to that. I've applied the deep seating techniques I've learned from you with 44 mag and 357 mag with very good results and hoping to see the same with a 454 brass. |
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