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Post by Burnston on Aug 30, 2019 15:26:04 GMT -5
Is it fairly common for the 1894s in .44mag not to feed the #429421 properly?
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Post by taffin on Aug 30, 2019 17:22:54 GMT -5
MOST LEVERGUNS ARE CRANKY WITH KEITH BULLETS
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Post by z1r on Aug 30, 2019 17:33:37 GMT -5
MOST LEVERGUNS ARE CRANKY WITH KEITH BULLETS Yup, Mine will not feed them and my SAECO 265 GCFN is too long to feed, so I had to buy another RFN mould for mine. Feeds them just fine and accurately to boot! |
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ziptar
.240 Incinerator
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Post by ziptar on Aug 30, 2019 21:37:21 GMT -5
I've got a pre safety 1894 that was a 44 Mag when I bought it. About 10 years ago I sent it to Clement's Custom and had it chambered and barrelled in 45 Colt.
David also did some work on the action. At time he said that the 1984 actions could be pretty finicky.
He got it running like butter and it is still flawless today. I shoot RCBS 45-270-SAAs out of it almost exclusively. Eats them up like candy.
Clement's doesn't do rifle work anymore but there are plenty of smiths out there that do action jobs for the CAS guys. It can be made to run good.
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wdr2
.30 Stingray
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Post by wdr2 on Aug 31, 2019 7:54:01 GMT -5
My 1894CB 44mag (1999 model) feeds Keith style bullets just fine in both 44SP and 44Mag brass. I am using the MP 503 copy. I bought my 1894 used earlier this year so I'm not sure if the action has been worked on.
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Post by frankenfab on Aug 31, 2019 19:05:11 GMT -5
The chamber may need a slight chamfer. It is my understanding this is done at the factory now.
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Post by frankenfab on Aug 31, 2019 22:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by Burnston on Aug 31, 2019 23:39:54 GMT -5
Thanks, Frank. Huge help.
Unfortunately, my problem is not with the chamber mouth. Mine get hung up as they're exiting the loading tube, as if the carrier is engaged before the rounds can fully exit.
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Post by bigmuddy on Sept 1, 2019 13:18:36 GMT -5
The 429421 bullet has a long nose. When I had a '94 Marlin 44 the cartridges would hang up as you described due to the OAL. I loaded those bullets in 44 Special brass and they worked perfectly. Just a thought.
Dan
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Post by Burnston on Sept 1, 2019 18:34:40 GMT -5
The 429421 bullet has a long nose. When I had a '94 Marlin 44 the cartridges would hang up as you described due to the OAL. I loaded those bullets in 44 Special brass and they worked perfectly. Just a thought. Dan My experience is the same. Same bullet in the special case is fine. It is not a deal breaker in this rifle for me; just a bit of an annoyance. |
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Post by boolitdesigner on Sept 1, 2019 19:33:07 GMT -5
Thanks, Frank. Huge help. Unfortunately, my problem is not with the chamber mouth. Mine get hung up as they're exiting the loading tube, as if the carrier is engaged before the rounds can fully exit.
Here is an example: castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?7750-Modifying-the-Marlin-1894-for-a-longer-cartridge-OAL
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Sept 1, 2019 20:17:08 GMT -5
Easiest thing to do is shoot RNFP for practice and use Hornady XTP'S for hunting. If a cast bullet of any nose profile was supposed to kill it an XTP won't leave you disappointed. Not to mention you will probably need a .434 cast bullet to give good accuracy out of a Marlin.
I have 32-20,44-40,44 Mag,45 Colt and 45-70 Marlins and they ALL require fat cast bullets to shoot,but shoot jacketed just fine.
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Post by Burnston on Sept 1, 2019 23:33:29 GMT -5
Easiest thing to do is shoot RNFP for practice and use Hornady XTP'S for hunting. If a cast bullet of any nose profile was supposed to kill it an XTP won't leave you disappointed. Not to mention you will probably need a .434 cast bullet to give good accuracy out of a Marlin. I have 32-20,44-40,44 Mag,45 Colt and 45-70 Marlins and they ALL require fat cast bullets to shoot,but shoot jacketed just fine. I've noticed that on a low level thus far. When I could not get my .44mags to chamber I shot .44spls, using .434 bullets I use for an oversized Colt. There was a noticable distintion between those and the .429s I had laying around. |
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Post by Burnston on Sept 3, 2019 5:46:41 GMT -5
Thanks, Frank. Huge help. Unfortunately, my problem is not with the chamber mouth. Mine get hung up as they're exiting the loading tube, as if the carrier is engaged before the rounds can fully exit.
Here is an example: castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?7750-Modifying-the-Marlin-1894-for-a-longer-cartridge-OAL
Thank you for this information. I performed the procedure and it turned out to be the solution to my problem. The bullet does not shoot well, but it does chamber, and I got to know my Marlin really well through multiple disassemblies. One other thing I'll ask you while I'm at it; when I place a round, any round (.44 spl or mag,) directly into the chamber, the same lifter I've been struggling with will not allow me to close the lever. Said lifter hits to the bottom side of the round, and will not elevate any higher, but if I allow the round to fall out of the chamber and let the bolt seat the round, all performs as intended. Is this also normal, and if so, will it hurt to remove a bit of material from the front of the carrier in order to prevent it from getting hung up on the round? |
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Post by boolitdesigner on Sept 3, 2019 6:23:08 GMT -5
That seems to be common on Marlins.... I just shake the gun and it seems to position correctly then. I don't load that way normally.
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