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Post by silcott on Aug 25, 2019 18:27:37 GMT -5
I’d be interested if they make some. My father has been be in 45 colt. I’ve been trying to get one for a long time now.
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Post by contender on Aug 26, 2019 7:54:44 GMT -5
Thanks!!!!
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Post by bradshaw on Aug 26, 2019 9:49:09 GMT -5
Is this considered another "clean up run" of just a few guns like they've had in the past? Or a new run? The original run was 279 and then a couple "clean up" runs up to 392. I've got one of the first 279 and it's a keeper for sure. ***** The Super Blackhawk Hunter and Super Blackhawk Bisley Hunter should be flagship revolvers of the Ruger line. Any argument of SBH vs Bisley grip is purely personal to the shooter; both warrant inclusion. Cartridges should include .357, .41 .44 Mag and .45 Colt. A variant in .357 Maximum with 10-1/2 inch barrel should be prototyped----the testing has been done; we were right and detractors were wrong. There is room for improvement, which involves details, not concept. Preserve the original Redhawk front sight. Preserve the Bradshaw-Maximum ejector with a bigger button. Lengthen Ruger ring mount screws 3/16”; the 10-32 fine thread is satisfactory, it just needs more thread engagement. Tighten chamber-to-bore alignment. Tighten specs for the bored & broached rifling. A short, concentric 11-degree forcing cone ( I don’t care whether it’s 11-degree or less, what is imperative is to understand the importance of a forcing cone to accuracy). Smooth unfluted cylinder. David Bradshaw
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Post by oddshooter on Aug 26, 2019 9:57:27 GMT -5
These should be reserved for the folks who require and love scoped revolvers. There are so few handguns built for us that I think it's unfair to sell them to folks who still have eyes that work. I feel like you would be parking in a Handicapped Zone and didn't need it. Prescut
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 26, 2019 10:10:01 GMT -5
I got a Lipsy 44 Flat top Bisley a couple years ago... & don't remember any certificate like that... are those new / old or only done for the hunter series... maybe I need one with a scope because didn't notice mine in the box???
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Post by crazycarl on Aug 26, 2019 10:25:48 GMT -5
I'm happy for the .45 guys, 'cos I love my .41. Would love a Bis Hunter in .357Max.
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Post by bradshaw on Aug 26, 2019 10:28:02 GMT -5
These should be reserved for the folks who require and love scoped revolvers. There are so few handguns built for us that I think it's unfair to sell them to folks who still have eyes that work. I feel like you would be parking in a Handicapped Zone and didn't need it. Prescut ***** Prescut.... my eyes still work, leastwise by my reckoning, and I find huge utility in the Hunter. To have irons, with near-instant availability of optic, is a huge plus. To use the same revolver for tracking, then, at the end of the day, slap on a scope, fairly spells “utility.” None of which matters unless the revolver is a shooter to begin with. For all its classic Peacemaker history, I am not a fan of the 7-1/2” barrel. Spent years with a Model 29 6-1/2” on my hip, and a fair order of time with the 8-3/8”. The 7-1/2 is notably longer than the 6-1/2 when worn around vehicles and equipment. Yet, the Bisley Hunter with ribbed, untapered 7-1/2” barrel hefts so sweet with irons, and holds its pose well with scope, too. The Hunter is not an either/or revolver; it is a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too revolver. This is a territory worthy of more exploration. David Bradshaw
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Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 26, 2019 13:12:03 GMT -5
With some of the shorter optics currently available, a 5.5” or 6” Hunter would be nice.
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Post by Snyd on Aug 26, 2019 21:39:51 GMT -5
I got a Lipsy 44 Flat top Bisley a couple years ago... & don't remember any certificate like that... are those new / old or only done for the hunter series... maybe I need one with a scope because didn't notice mine in the box??? You can download your certificate from Lipseys here.... lipseysguns.com/lipseys-exclusives-certificates/
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Post by Snyd on Aug 26, 2019 22:03:12 GMT -5
....The Hunter is not an either/or revolver; it is a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too revolver. This is a territory worthy of more exploration. David Bradshaw And when paired up with a Von Ringler Wyoming Combination Holster it's the perfect Backpacking Mountain Hunting rig. Cross draw around the waist or over the shoulder it works great with a pack. Being 20 miles in the Sheep Mountains and in griz country it's comforting to know that the scope can be pulled off if need be due to a fall or scope failure and the open sights are at the ready. Not to mention being able to remove it and have open sights when busting thick brush and alders.... griz country. It's one area where the Hunter has one up on the Freedom Arms. Also, it feels good to have 6rnds at the ready. I sure love my 454 FA but I miss these Hunter features for a remote backpack hunt. But the FA will fit in the WyoCombo holster
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Post by wildcatter on Aug 27, 2019 8:35:25 GMT -5
It is just what it is called, a HUNTER! Like David and Snyd said, the sweet thing about the HUNTER, and I prefer the Bisley grip, is that ability to hunt them precious 30 minutes of pre sunup, and post sunup in that low light when open sight are hard to distinguish in heavy hardwoods and deep forest ravines. But for mid day, all it takes is a quarter, key, whatever and remove the scope for daylight and open sights, and return it when needed knowing it is still zero'd to hunt. Then loke Snyd said, if it ever had a problem in tough terrain and the scope got compromised, the hunt goes on knowing the open sights are always ready! I like the Barranti Eastern Hunter for carry duty, and with the heavy scope rib with the scope weight over top of the the barrel, helps it keep my 340's and 250's hitting the same place out to 50 yards, with excellent accuracy from my Pre-cleanup version, ny other Bisleys shoot these two loads just as good, but with almost 3" difference in elevation at 50 yards, but the HUNTER keeps them in the same zip code,,, I agree with Snyd after having both the SBBH and 6 and 7 1/2 inch FA 83's in 454, I found myself hunting more with this rig, the 454 might be better for bear or dangerous game protection, but it is marginal at best, when you feed the old 45 Colt the right heavy lead diet! It loves that 340 grn. WFL just as much as the lighter game 250 grn. That made this my favorite hunting revolver very convenient, accurate, and with plenty of penetration! Today not wanting to risk gimped game with my eyes getting worse I seldom hunt big game with open sights, I find myself more often going for the more convenient to pack 5 1/2" Bisley, in my baby hunter version, but I don't have the assurance if anything happens to the sight to fall back on, but make no mistake it's a 45 Colt when I do.
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Post by oddshooter on Aug 27, 2019 8:55:07 GMT -5
These should be reserved for the folks who require and love scoped revolvers. There are so few handguns built for us that I think it's unfair to sell them to folks who still have eyes that work. I feel like you would be parking in a Handicapped Zone and didn't need it. Prescut I've never quoted myself before, but I guess there's always a first time. For those who missed it. IT WAS A JOKE. I only got one "like". Eye tests for revolver reservations? I thought the Handicapped Zone was hilarious. I may have lost my eye sight, but not my funny bone. and Yes, I know, if you have to explain it, it wasn't funny. My own Hunter in 45 Colt is about as perfect as it gets. I would love to have another one in Max. I was scheming to get to the front of the line. Prescut
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Post by wildcatter on Aug 27, 2019 13:51:41 GMT -5
Mounting the scope higher can give a slightly better Point Blank Range. It requires the bullet to raise higher above the barrel to meet the center line of the scope giving you a bit further down range before the bullet drops back below the centerline of the scope. But one of the benefits of the Hunter models Like I have shown on the Super Blackhawk Bisley Hunter in 45 Colt is the fact that weight added to the barrel allows me to shoot different weight bullets ant different velocities for different game, and keep my same zero. Something I cannot do with any other setup I own. It prompted me to set this .327 GP-100 up with the same goal in mind. A slower 115 grain cast for edible small game, and not hassle with adjusting elevation for my preferred 140 grain Varmint loads for groundhogs and coyote and such. With the lighter recoiling round, and the heavy underlug mounting the scope farther forward increasing that weight on the barrel, made that possible. All from the first thing that impressed me using the SBHBH in 45 Colt with normal and very heavy slugs. No doubt I wish I could have kept the open sights with the GP-100, as that to me was the biggest advantage with the Hunter, sighted in at all times for open sights or scope. With the advantage of reattaching the scope with the Ruger rings, and keeping the same zero as before removing it. This let me hunt first light with the scope, the rest of the day with open sights while still hunting, and back to scope for those minutes of the day and be able to see my aiming point in after sundown conditions. Not sure without pictures but doesn't the Weigand utilize their rail in place of Ruger Rings, and still need rings to boot on top of that?
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Post by rvolvr on Aug 27, 2019 14:42:12 GMT -5
I got a Lipsy 44 Flat top Bisley a couple years ago... & don't remember any certificate like that... are those new / old or only done for the hunter series... maybe I need one with a scope because didn't notice mine in the box??? You can download your certificate from Lipseys here.... lipseysguns.com/lipseys-exclusives-certificates/Not sure I grasp the concept of the Lipsey's Certificate. Each is "generic" in that it's not tied to any serial number series/range, but only to a model number. What's it's purpose? Thanks! Dale
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Post by Snyd on Aug 27, 2019 16:04:55 GMT -5
Not sure I grasp the concept of the Lipsey's Certificate. Each is "generic" in that it's not tied to any serial number series/range, but only to a model number. What's it's purpose? Thanks! Dale Ya I know. I'd say it's a "feel good" thing Lipseys does.
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