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Post by bushog on Mar 20, 2019 10:18:22 GMT -5
We should start a pole for what the price turns out to be.
I'm betting $325
A Clements hammer is $250...
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Post by potatojudge on Mar 20, 2019 12:20:29 GMT -5
I think you're right in the 3-350 range.
IIRC the Ruger design is cast because the way it's designed would be difficult to machine.
A two piece design might alleviate that issue, reduce waste, and offer something even better than the $8k Linebaugh guns- the potential for one piece grips. EDM or water jet might be a good, clean way to get the profiles started.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Mar 20, 2019 13:08:22 GMT -5
well Fabricator guy knows CNC guy really well, & he's nearly positive he'll want to get in on this... if so, aluminum will be the test pieces, as Fabricator guy has aluminum in stock to do those...
Fabricator guy is thinking 3 jigs may be needed, but CNC guy has all the newest toys, so he may be able to perform magic with a 3d scanner...
I'll find out more, when these 2 guys get together to talk...
if things are a go, I should probably get you guys help, as what are the critical dimensions we need to worry about... I know fitting my Qualite Lightning grip frames to my Montados, that one side was proud, & one side was short material when the screws were fit to the holes... I'm thinking, if we could get measurements & find the biggest & smallest guns in our group, we could get it as close to drop in as possible, & could likely end up with just having to surface machine the flat sides a few thousands to match the revolver frames???
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Post by harveylogan on Mar 20, 2019 13:46:18 GMT -5
The screw holes on Qualite grip frames were a pig in a poke, but with that said they could be opened up for a better fittment of the gripframe before the sides were fitted. I have fit ~25, IMO they were not for the average kitchen table gunsmith.
The Power Custom grip frame is a CNC frame and they fit up nicely, they are nice well crafted grip frames. I have only done 2 of these and they were way easier. (I have 1 more ready to go.)
Qualite were ~$100 when in production, the PC grip frame $250. The “You get what you pay for” never more true.
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Post by silcott on Mar 20, 2019 15:51:07 GMT -5
My machine would make easy work of machining a Bisley grip frame. : )  |
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Post by nicholst55 on Mar 20, 2019 16:37:00 GMT -5
I absolutely agree that these will not be in the $100-150 price range. Figure that a mass-produced investment cast steel part, made by probably THE BIGGEST dog in this particular industry is costing that much. Materials and programming alone are going to eat up that much money. My guesstimate of the $250 price range is also probably a bit low. Realistically, we're probably looking at $300-350 or more, depending on the quantity produced. I suggest that we get a firm price estimate from the fabricator and CNC operator, and then gauge interest.
Perhaps this could be a group buy.
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Post by foxtrapper on Mar 20, 2019 16:54:05 GMT -5
We should start a pole for what the price turns out to be. I'm betting $325 A Clements hammer is $250... David is taking orders for the old model Bisley hammer. Ordered mine! Triggers too! |
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Post by bushog on Mar 20, 2019 16:56:33 GMT -5
yep
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Post by foxtrapper on Mar 20, 2019 17:01:11 GMT -5
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Post by Joe S. on Mar 20, 2019 17:02:29 GMT -5
My machine would make easy work of machining a Bisley grip frame. : ) You should build me one... for testing of course... |
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Post by ncrobb on Mar 20, 2019 18:36:20 GMT -5
So would a new model Bisley frame fit on an Old Model gun? The only difference is the trigger return spring arrangement, right?
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Post by kings6 on Mar 20, 2019 18:55:18 GMT -5
It sure does since there are no old model bisley grip frames. Most guys buy one of David Clements hybrid triggers and use the new model trigger return spring rather than hassle with making an old model trigger return spring adapter. This is a new model bisley on an old model gun using Davids parts.  |
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Post by jfo4 on Mar 20, 2019 19:36:48 GMT -5
I'd take a couple in aluminum or titanium.
~J.O.
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Post by frankenfab on Mar 22, 2019 17:21:12 GMT -5
Pardon me it has already been mentioned, but the raw material cost to produce a brass Bisley grip frame is over $100 for 360 brass. $144 for a 6" square 1" thick.
It's on my list as a future project to make a few for myself, but I wouldn't have enough non-work time to develop any kind of production.
It's a great idea for sure!
I just can't afford one, even if I made it myself.
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Post by edk on Mar 22, 2019 18:14:35 GMT -5
Might as well include a Huntington-type mod while you're making chips!
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