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Post by z1r on Nov 26, 2018 15:55:37 GMT -5
The two rifles I'd recommend are a Kimber Hunter in 6.5 CM or CZ527 in 6.5 Grendel. I built both my boys 6.5x55's. My Youngest was 8 at the time, my eldest was 11. The youngest got a 17" barrel and reduced LOP stock. We loaded a 100 BT to 2600 fps, about the equivalent of a 250 Savage. My youngest took a Huge 250 lb PA whitetail with that trifle and load.
The 6.5 CM will be more versatile over the years but for whitetail the Grendel is sweet as well. The CM has an advantage right now of having a ton of factory loads available.
I never met a 6.5 I didn't like.
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Nov 26, 2018 18:55:23 GMT -5
I get jumpy about people Cm bashing. The 260 guys really get going on it. Not sure why . Considering the technology available when the 6.5×55 Swede was invented. The Creed is just a modern update of it. The 260 is a great round. But some of the tweaks of the Creed are beneficial. Mine is my caribou and fur rifle. It dumps bou and pokes a hole thru a fox or lynx ribs without blowing the far side off. A 260 will do the same thing just as well. The Creed like the 6.5×47 Lapua excells at long range shooting tho. The slightly reduced powder capacity of the 2 target rounds is more than made up for in the ease of handling longer higher bc bullets. I use 144 gr Lapua fmjbt bullets for fur @ 2550 fps I'm working on a new bullet for big game . The 142 gr Nosler Accu Bond Long Range or ABLR. I have been shooting the Barnes 110 gr Banded Solid for fur. But they, Barnes stopped selling them to the public. I have mostly shot the 130 Swift Sirocco 2 and 130 TSX for big game. I haven't found a bad bullet for it yet. I've shot Lots of Speer 120 gr spire points for practice. And lots of various Hornady's . Other Nosler's, some very small shop hand made bullets and milsurp pulled solids.
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Post by justahunter on Nov 26, 2018 22:01:57 GMT -5
I bought my kids a Kimber in .257 Roberts. The only problem with it is LOP. It is light enough for them to carry, but doesn't kick hard. The 6.5s kicked them too hard. The .257 works well and my son shot his second deer yesterday with it. My soon to be 10 year old daughter who is smaller than your daughter will be using it next year.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Nov 27, 2018 9:37:38 GMT -5
As I said earlier,....FIT is very important. Both for use and recoil mitigation, being able to reload reduced power loads with lighter bullets as a great help as well.
Trapr
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Post by bigbore475 on Nov 27, 2018 11:18:56 GMT -5
Ruger American ranch rifle in 300 Black out.
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Post by potatojudge on Nov 27, 2018 14:40:58 GMT -5
I'd focus on getting a rifle that fits her, that she doesn't feel is too heavy, with controls she can manage, and that can be dropped in different stocks as she grows.
Agree with the 257R, 6.5CM, 260, 7-08 and similar as already mentioned. All I'll add is that if you started with a 308 or 358 win, you can progressively load heavier rounds tailored to her comfort level. Light loads with lead bullets and unique will get the job done and let her practice all she wants.
Contenders can be small enough and light enough, but breaking the action and cocking the hammer are things you'd need to make sure she can do. My sister started out with a Contender carbine in 357 max and it's a gun we all still carry from time to time.
A short action Savage in the 308 family would work nicely. As she grows and matures you can drop it in a nice, properly sized stock, get a premium barrel for it, go up in caliber, have it threaded for a suppressor, have the action tuned, whatever. It'd make a good rifle that can be made better and can grow with her. At this age, if she wants to paint a synthetic stock, action, and barrel it'll only serve to protect the blueing for when she is less likely to ding it on a bind door or fence post and, depending on the type of kid she is, it might increase her interest in the whole deal.
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Post by kings6 on Nov 27, 2018 15:01:01 GMT -5
All my kids killed their first elk or deer with the same Model 7 youth version in 7mm-08. All those animals were DRT including two large cow elk. Mild to shoot, nice LOP and not too expensive. I think the Leupold scope cost as much as the rifle when I bought it. I liked the performance so much I took an old model 700 243 and converted it into my only custom rifle in the same 7mm-08 caliber.
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Post by princeout on Nov 27, 2018 15:35:38 GMT -5
I’m in the 7mm-08 camp too. Started my kids on a used Remington Model 7 youth model. It now wears an adult sized stock, also bought online as a closeout. Son #3 still uses it, mostly as a short barreled hog gun. Tim
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Post by squigz on Nov 27, 2018 15:44:30 GMT -5
I started on a Ruger M77RL in 243. I never really hunted anything other than Whitetails until I was older and could handle something else which is when I moved to a 280. I still take the 243 out since it's such a nice light gun to hunt with on the mountains.
I've had good luck with Model 7's as well. I don't own a 7mm-08 but I would like too because it's a fantastic cartridge and I love any cartridge based off a 308.
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Post by Rimfire69 on Nov 28, 2018 7:43:53 GMT -5
Browning also runs a good program, when you buy a micro Midas, and register in there youth program, they will sell you full size wood when the youngster grows into it for half price. I have done it with shotguns, and see plenty of micro Midas size in there line.
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Post by bagdadjoe on Nov 29, 2018 12:14:32 GMT -5
Ruger American iranch rifle in 300 Black out. Perfect....I have that plus a AR carbine and Black Rain Ordinance pistol...shoot the Ruger most. Very handy size, very accurate.
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 29, 2018 17:07:31 GMT -5
CZ 527 in 300BO. Small, light, accurate, and easy to load for. Single set trigger is wonderful. Muzzle threaded for suppressor too.
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Post by gator89 on Nov 30, 2018 3:02:35 GMT -5
i gave my youngest son a rem m7(older one with 18.5" barrel) in 7-08. i "customized" the trigger(timney) and i loaded up some 139gr hornady fn discontinued(can't remember imr 4350 or 4320_) that goes 2600fps. he was at the time, 5' and 100lbs and it never "kicked". i have the same gun and caliber and load, it never "kicked" me. as a matter of fact, i can see the bullet impact on deer. or you can go the cz527 in 7.62x39. i am going to get this one in the fall. it will be my deer hunting rifle when i get older. Another vote here for the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39, I am infatuated with mine.
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Post by hawg on Dec 1, 2018 0:11:58 GMT -5
Ruger American Kid Model in 243. Hornady reduced recoil ammo. Our kids shoot a lot of hogs and deer with this combo. Has an “accu” like trigger too. Sadly nothing for you to tinker with😂
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Post by msalm on Dec 27, 2018 14:26:15 GMT -5
Amazed it wasn’t mentioned but the Howa Mini in either 6.5 Grendel or 7.62x39 with a youth stock is an awesome little rifle. Great triggers, dbm, accurate, and light at only 5.5 lbs or so. I bought a bunch of them and think there’s a lot of rifle there. I’ve rebarreled a couple to 22 and 6mm Grendel and even punches out a factory 7.62 chamber with a Grendel reamer. That one will go over 2500fps with the Sierra 125’s.
The youth stock is very compact yet very shootable for adults yet.
Anyway, there’s one more option for you!
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