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Post by Aggie01 on Nov 1, 2009 21:15:49 GMT -5
Had a 290 WFN running out of my Lipsey's .44 special today at 1070 fps. Seemed within normal pressure signs, but didn't go up any more. Just as comfortable as a 255 at 1200.
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Post by Bowenbuilt on Nov 1, 2009 21:54:02 GMT -5
Would that have been using Lil Gun? If so I have found the same thing. The LBT's don't seem to run the pressure up like the Keith bullets do because there is so much more bullet out of the case. 14 to 15 grns of 2400 works pretty good for me too with those.
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 1, 2009 22:14:53 GMT -5
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Post by Aggie01 on Nov 1, 2009 22:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by mtnbkr on Nov 2, 2009 8:11:46 GMT -5
I seem to remember reading in a "letter to the editor" type question in Handloader about an H110 load for 300s and the Lipsey 44. IIRC, the load had them running at about 1000fps.
Chris
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Post by paul105 on Nov 2, 2009 9:27:38 GMT -5
In the Aug/Sep 2005 Handloader Mag, Brian Pearce wrote an article on the .44 Special. He gave three levels of load data -- 15,500 psi or less, 22,000 psi or less and 25,000 psi or less. In the latter category he listed 15.5gr H110 (Win cases, Fed 155s) under a 307gr Dry Creek cast SWC at 1,057 fps from a 4 1/4" Freedom Arms M97.
Using a 300gr Mt Baldy "Keith" SWC, I bracketed that load just to get a feel for the recoil. In my 5 1/2" FA87, It is not at all unpleasant. If I need that much bullet, I'd most likely use a bigger cartridge, but in the .44 Secial, it is easily manageable.
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Post by boxhead on Nov 2, 2009 12:00:13 GMT -5
Aggie,
That clearly is a killer load assuming it lands them all where you point at the ranges you shoot. This I would like to understand. Assuming so, it also clearly shows that Elmer's work is not "the last word" as so many still believe. Good stuff.
I have been shooting Lil'Gun in my Ruger 32 Mag's and OMBH 41 Mag with zero problemo's. I am wondering if the 454 pressures combined with Lil'Gun is the really issue?
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Post by sixshot on Nov 2, 2009 18:23:11 GMT -5
aggie01, that sounds like a real beast, what ya going to hammer with that slug? I know one thing, it would penetrate a looooong ways. Haven't tried taking mine much over 1000 fps yet.
Dick
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Post by Bowenbuilt on Nov 2, 2009 19:17:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up Axe. I haven't used much of it but I just fertilized the back yard with the rest of the can. No more Lil Gun for me. |
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Post by Aggie01 on Nov 2, 2009 20:02:27 GMT -5
aggie01, that sounds like a real beast, what ya going to hammer with that slug? Paper, tommorrow. I found the recoil of this load more comfortable than 16.5 grains 2400 under a 255 Keith. My 44 mag load is this same bullet around 1300 fps. |
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Post by Aggie01 on Nov 8, 2009 19:45:38 GMT -5
I had seen ZERO data for heavy bullets in the .44 special until I decided to work up a load. Then late last week, my most recent free issue of Handloader arrived with an article by Brian Pierce on "3 Sixgun Cartridges"
It's on the .45 Colt, .44 Special and .44 magnum.
Nothing but a blurb, but in his discussion of the .44 special, he states" It can also push 310-grain cast bullets around 1,050 fps, which penetrate unusually well."
The article also has the best picture I have seen of the No.5 that Hamilton Bowen built for him.
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