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Post by 2 Dogs on Feb 3, 2018 11:10:11 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^^ Since it has different parameters, a new design of course. It's always fun to set your mind off to cookin' up something old/new. Smells wonderful already.... |
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Post by boolitdesigner on Feb 5, 2018 16:06:02 GMT -5
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Post by bcelliott on Feb 5, 2018 23:32:50 GMT -5
Many thanks for the diagram! What is the 154 gr bullet on the far right?
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Post by boolitdesigner on Feb 6, 2018 9:21:15 GMT -5
Many thanks for the diagram! What is the 154 gr bullet on the far right? |
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Post by bcelliott on Feb 6, 2018 10:01:23 GMT -5
Is that 154 gr cast diameter large enough to use in the 327? If so, where can I find a mold? Perfect for my Blackhawk!
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Post by boolitdesigner on Feb 6, 2018 10:14:10 GMT -5
It casts out about 0.313+" for me. You will need to trim the 327 brass slightly to fit. I intend to try it in the Blackhawk myself at some time.
Early yesterday he had 8 molds. It's on sale at MP Molds.
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Post by bcelliott on Feb 6, 2018 12:17:28 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Feb 6, 2018 14:03:53 GMT -5
We shot it in our Buckeyes in 32-20 cases without trimming. Should fit the 327 too!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Feb 12, 2018 8:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by 41freak on Feb 15, 2018 11:43:21 GMT -5
Bob, I am looking for a lighter weight 41, I am signed up for the 411-640-265gr GB but want a lighter HP bullet as well, I would love something in 170gr. Do you have such a critter with the 640 design?
Thanks
Scott
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Post by boolitdesigner on Feb 15, 2018 16:05:53 GMT -5
Bob, I am looking for a lighter weight 41, I am signed up for the 411-640-265gr GB but want a lighter HP bullet as well, I would love something in 170gr. Do you have such a critter with the 640 design? Thanks Scott Yes.... go here: www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/molds/hollow-points-molds/mp-411-640-pb-hp-2-cavHe has at least two 2 cavity molds.... check the 4 cavity out also. I've killed a couple of large deer with this particular design..... gives good performance when alloyed properly. |
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Post by 41freak on Feb 15, 2018 20:15:07 GMT -5
Bob, I am looking for a lighter weight 41, I am signed up for the 411-640-265gr GB but want a lighter HP bullet as well, I would love something in 170gr. Do you have such a critter with the 640 design? Thanks Scott Yes.... go here: www.mp-molds.com/e-shop/molds/hollow-points-molds/mp-411-640-pb-hp-2-cavHe has at least two 2 cavity molds.... check the 4 cavity out also. I've killed a couple of large deer with this particular design..... gives good performance when alloyed properly. I was wondering if that was your design, I will be ordering one asap. Thanks. Scott |
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Post by williamiorg on Mar 6, 2018 7:59:52 GMT -5
I found these pictures of the 429640. Sad to say they are not good and did not crop small with detail. They will scroll up a little. These are from my bullet bag as representatives and have a few dents. The Lyman bullet is a bit slow to cast but is an accurate bullet in both handguns and rifles. This one is an excellent bullet in the .444 Marlin Winchester rifle. The above drawing line is excellent and well illustrates how the bullets will fit the cylinders of the various handguns. The Lyman 429640 is .845” overall length and the HP cavity is about .267” deep and about .165” wide. It’s a big hole. 429640, 429421, 429244  Meplat  |
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Post by boolitdesigner on Mar 15, 2018 10:01:20 GMT -5
Perception of hollow points and their uses
There are different ideas on how hollow points should perform. One school sees the classic umbrella stopping in the animal, two or four legged. Another sees the hollow point expanding and shearing away leaving the base to drive through the animal leaving two holes. Which is best? The answer is the person who loaded the hollow points wants to incapacitate whatever he shoots, now not later. Which one does that? In either, the form and shape along with the bullet material used in the hollow point determines that. In jacketed, the jacket material needs to be either skived at the front or segments impressed into the jacket with a hollow point size to allow expansion at the velocity where an animal will be hit at. With cast, it needs to have a thinner wall at the mouth to initiate expansion. Any drilled hollow point usually has a rather thick wall on the meplat… unless cast dead soft, these don’t usually expand well and have a narrow velocity range they work well at. Getting a classic mushroom hollow point will be tedious as they have a narrow velocity range where they can be achieved and that depends on alloy and what they hit. The other side of the coin is the people who want the hollow point to expand and slough off the petals inside the body cavity of the animal, This also turns quite a few people off as you have lead fragments mixed in the internal organs (most of which you won’t eat). I’ve shot a lot of deer with this kind of hollow point…results are usually spectacular with the animal dieing on the spot or running less than fifty yards. If prefer this type as I don’t have to bust something in the shoulder to break it down so it doesn’t run off and isn’t findable. Remember, if a hollow point doesn’t open, it is a solid. General rules for hunting is break the shoulder with a solid and put a hollow point (that works) in the heart lung area, for deer size and lower. Really big animals work under different rules.
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Post by squigz on Mar 15, 2018 10:06:51 GMT -5
Perception of hollow points and their uses There are different ideas on how hollow points should perform. One school sees the classic umbrella stopping in the animal, two or four legged. Another sees the hollow point expanding and shearing away leaving the base to drive through the animal leaving two holes. Which is best? The answer is the person who loaded the hollow points wants to incapacitate whatever he shoots, now not later. Which one does that? In either, the form and shape along with the bullet material used in the hollow point determines that. In jacketed, the jacket material needs to be either skived at the front or segments impressed into the jacket with a hollow point size to allow expansion at the velocity where an animal will be hit at. With cast, it needs to have a thinner wall at the mouth to initiate expansion. Any drilled hollow point usually has a rather thick wall on the meplat… unless cast dead soft, these don’t usually expand well and have a narrow velocity range they work well at. Getting a classic mushroom hollow point will be tedious as they have a narrow velocity range where they can be achieved and that depends on alloy and what they hit. The other side of the coin is the people who want the hollow point to expand and slough off the petals inside the body cavity of the animal, This also turns quite a few people off as you have lead fragments mixed in the internal organs (most of which you won’t eat). I’ve shot a lot of deer with this kind of hollow point…results are usually spectacular with the animal dieing on the spot or running less than fifty yards. If prefer this type as I don’t have to bust something in the shoulder to break it down so it doesn’t run off and isn’t findable. Remember, if a hollow point doesn’t open, it is a solid. General rules for hunting is break the shoulder with a solid and put a hollow point (that works) in the heart lung area, for deer size and lower. Really big animals work under different rules. So basically, the task of drilling a hole into the front of a cast bullet does not effectively work unless the mouth is opened wide enough to also support the expansion as well as the hardness of said bullet? |
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