Ruger Bisley 454, need a better grip frame

[500fksjr]

Aug 1, 2017 21:08:25 GMT -5 de1216 said:

So many posts here and elsewhere about poor quality control on Ruger Bisley 454 and 480 revolvers. What gives?

I was trying to figure how to get a Ruger Bisley 454 with a grip frame that has the same feel as my FA 83 454 (more room between my fingers and the trigger guard.)

I have a few 45 Colt BHs (one favorite that Mr. Harton worked over for me a few yrs back). They feel better than my Bisley 44 Mag or 45 Colt to quickly take hold of and hit what I want to hit, WITH LOADS BELOW +P LEVEL. With heavy loads they shift enough in my hands that I end up with a bleeding middle finger/knuckle.

My Ruger Bisley models in 44 and +P 45 Colt are easier to hang on to under heavier recoil, but the fact that my middle finger is right up against the trigger guard means I still end up with a bruised middle finger.

How do I get the feel of my FA 454 grip frame on a Ruger 454 without paying out the same money as hunting down another FA 83 with a shorter barrel?
(IF I dare spend the money first on a new Ruger 454 and gamble with several warranty returns to Ruger BEFORE I tackle the grip frame issue)

D.

Andy Horvath just completed my sons 454 opened up the frame/trigger guard. Then round the heel of the grip frame slightly...cleaned up factory grips/fit...He likes it an its not biting him now...couple hundred bucks portion of the ticket (he had other work done)...fwiw

[de1216]

Pleasantly surprised by all the input.......thanks!

Had a great chat with Mr Huntington about his approach to grip style & shape and the comfortable control of heavy load single actions. Also some insight into plus & minus factors of offerings from Ruger, FA, and Magnum Research. I have to decide whether to a have his grip frame mod done to a Bisley or "STD" Blackhawk.

Maybe one of each! After that is done, I may have my FA barrel shortened to 6" for my infrequent 454 use.

Wish I could have talked longer but didn't want to burn too much of his shop time....other folks already have projects there in process.

D.

[tradmark]

Aug 1, 2017 21:08:25 GMT -5 de1216 said:

So many posts here and elsewhere about poor quality control on Ruger Bisley 454 and 480 revolvers. What gives?

I was trying to figure how to get a Ruger Bisley 454 with a grip frame that has the same feel as my FA 83 454 (more room between my fingers and the trigger guard.)

I have a few 45 Colt BHs (one favorite that Mr. Harton worked over for me a few yrs back). They feel better than my Bisley 44 Mag or 45 Colt to quickly take hold of and hit what I want to hit, WITH LOADS BELOW +P LEVEL. With heavy loads they shift enough in my hands that I end up with a bleeding middle finger/knuckle.

My Ruger Bisley models in 44 and +P 45 Colt are easier to hang on to under heavier recoil, but the fact that my middle finger is right up against the trigger guard means I still end up with a bruised middle finger.

How do I get the feel of my FA 454 grip frame on a Ruger 454 without paying out the same money as hunting down another FA 83 with a shorter barrel?
(IF I dare spend the money first on a new Ruger 454 and gamble with several warranty returns to Ruger BEFORE I tackle the grip frame issue)

D.

Honestly a bisley bfr 454 solves this entirely imho. Cheaper than a fa83 as well.

[jsh]

My take on the 480/454.
The scales should be different than standard offerings.
I have been fooling with a rough set of zebra wood. Trying to keep them wide enough in the back to spread out the recoil. Yet narrow enough in the front I am not searching for the trigger.
On my initial start up, the scales were pretty big. I went ahead and tried them on full tilt 480 loads. As far as recoil they were great. Accuracy I did not like. So I sanded, then sanded some more. I have now sanded off enough I am going to have to redo my screw escuncion on the left side, right side is blind.

I have thoughts about putting a couple of coats of wax on the naked grip frame and then slapping some bondo up on it to make a rough pattern for my hand.

I have had this grip frame off and on so many times I am going to have to get a new set of screws or try and fix these. :-o
Jeff

[xtratoy]

Does anyone have an overlay showing the difference of the Huntington and Bisley grip. I have been thinking of getting a Super Blackhawk Hunter grip frame for my 480. I only have 1/8" clearance for my middle finger with the Bisley grip and if I don't death grip the gun I get smacked even with moderate loads.

[gregs]

As XT above. This looks like a simple mod to open up more finger room, but cautious on thinning the front strap. Does Huntington run a couple of beads down the inside of the front strap before opening up the gap, a silver brazed dutchman and then deck the sides for a flat even plane to mount the grips on?

I did a seach and found the old threads with a few pics that are no longer available due to Photobuckets new draconian fees.

Thanks, G