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Post by awp101 on Jan 5, 2017 19:24:51 GMT -5
We did shoot a few Russian 9mm from a super, worked just fine. 9x18?
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Post by 450ak on Jan 5, 2017 22:19:23 GMT -5
It was 9x19 Russian steel case. The colt functioned perfectly for a magazine full. I am baffled why everybody doesn't have at least one super 38 to enjoy.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 6, 2017 7:57:01 GMT -5
Kimber was the driver for all the enhanced 1911s we now see from all the 1911 builders. Colt really dropped the ball and lost a lot of ground from the late 70s to recent years. I've always said that if you are buying to invest you can't beat a Colt. If you are buying to shoot there are much better choices. That said, Colt has made big improvements in recent years. I find the general fit and finish of current production Colts the equal of any well built 1911 out there.
I stay away from firing pin safeties in any 1911. Never had an issue with one but have very experienced 1911 shooting friends who have. They are a feel good thing for a carry gun but IMHO have no place in a competition gun. I've got pre series II Kimbers, old Colts, Springfields, Nighthawks, and full up customs built with a mix of Caspian and national match parts. I am literally a fool for a good custom 1911.
Don't like MIM on your new gun? buy Dan Wesson. FWIW I'm building up a Caspian frame for a 22. Ordered $450 in just inards for the frame. I could have bought good (non MIM) generic parts and spent 1/2 that. MIM parts are cheaper. For less than $200 you can upgrade your hammer/sear/disconnector/springs with aftermarket parts. In fact the Springfield Custom Shop will tell you that if you want a less than 4 pound trigger those components need to be upgraded in off the shelf Springfield 1911.
The Ruger 1911 looks good and feels good. Knowledgeable people speak highly of them. They easily look and feel the equal of the Springfield.
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Post by rjm52 on Jan 7, 2017 13:13:49 GMT -5
I have a dozen or so Colts but all of them except one were made between 1951 and 1986. The one new one happens to be a Commander in .38 Super. It has run perfectly out of the box. They were a special run for TALO of about 1250 guns. Have seen used prices all over the place from $950 to $1700...but they are well worth the money. Frame is aluminum with a nickel/Teflon finish. Upswept beavertail safety, extended safety and undercut triggerguard. The slide is stainless with a black Ceracoat, slim grip panels and Novak rear sight with a Trijicon tritium front. The the chamber was so match tight that any reload that would not go in a check gauge would not chamber... A friend still had a barrel from a XSE Commander I had sold him that was just as tight. I bought that barrel and had it rechambered for 9x23 Winchester...and now it will run all my out of spec Super ammo and 9x23... Then found a KART 9mm barrel and had that fitted to the slide...so now it will run those three plus 9mm Largo. I have since changed out the trigger for a three hole aluminum, put standard thickness bushings/grips on, arched mainspring housing and a Dawson adjustable rear sight... This is an XSE Commander... Most of the guys over on the 1911 forums rave about their new Colts.. As to Kimber...have had two good ones and one bad one... The two good ones I still have and are excellent shooters..both are Stainless Target IIs in .38 Super and 10mm. The bad one was a ProCary HD .38 Super that a friend wanted to buy from me even though he knew it constantly jammed. He finally sent it back to Kimber who destroyed it and sent him a new gun... I could tell what was wrong...something was mismachined so the slide could not cycle all the way to the rear... Kimber to their credit replaced the gun no charge to a non-original owner. Can't say enough good about the STIIs...have run 100% out of the box and very accurate... Personally I don't think it makes any difference whose 1911 you buy... I also have 1911s made by Rock Island Armory, PARA-USA and Dan Wesson.... Lots of friends have the Springfield Armory Rangemaster and love them... The only thing I will not have on a 1911 is a checkered frontstrap...but most people apparently love it... Bob
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Post by awp101 on Jan 8, 2017 11:34:53 GMT -5
It was 9x19 Russian steel case. The colt functioned perfectly for a magazine full. I am baffled why everybody doesn't have at least one super 38 to enjoy. Got it. When I hear "Russian 9mm" I immediately think of 9mm Makarov. I've had 2 Supers but they were both EAA Witnesses. One was a Witness-P and IIRC the other was a full size steel frame but I've never had a 1911 Super. I'm giving serious thought to using one of my stripped frames to build one...
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Post by awp101 on Jan 8, 2017 11:40:46 GMT -5
Don't like MIM on your new gun? buy Dan Wesson. FWIW I'm building up a Caspian frame for a 22. Ordered $450 in just inards for the frame. I could have bought good (non MIM) generic parts and spent 1/2 that. MIM parts are cheaper. I'm curious and always looking to learn. Whose parts are you using and who meets the criteria for "good (non MIM) generic parts"? I have the two stripped frames to work with and a brandy new RIA GI that will probably become a test mule for various projects. I am literally a fool for a good custom 1911. I'm getting that way pretty fast...
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 8, 2017 12:19:17 GMT -5
I'm old enough to remember to RUN from anything built with an Essex frame. No matter how good it shot or felt it was common knowledge that one good trigger pull didn't mean they would all be good. The sear and hammer holes weren't always exactly parallel. Also remember when any good gunsmith would specify Colt or or Springfield for a base gun only. That drives a lot of my 1911 thinking. Helped when All National Guard Shooting Team Armorers built me guns using Caspian frames but I still pretty much a snob. All that glitters is not gold... I'd think that most steel parts from recognized sources are good. Remember that if they are not matched parts they can require a lot of fitting. My match guns that weren't completely built up by a custom gunsmith contain matched hammer/sear/disconnector sets from KC Crawford. I run some cylinder and slide matched sets in some of my play guns...
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Post by Markbo on Jan 8, 2017 13:03:25 GMT -5
And on the far other end of that spectrum.... I am not a competitive shooter and have never had a custom 1911 built just for me. I have no matched internals on any 1911 and my Kimbers all run like swiss watches. But my match grade wilson .460 Rowland built on Caspian slide is a bit persnickity. And my dedicated .22 conversions built on Rock Island frames run like champs. Go figure, huh?
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 8, 2017 17:30:10 GMT -5
Come to the hijack thread... I'm about to write about sending a new 1911 frame out to be hard chromed to become a dedicated 22 with a Nelson Conversion.
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Post by joej on Jan 9, 2017 12:01:51 GMT -5
Come to the hijack thread... I'm about to write about sending a new 1911 frame out to be hard chromed to become a dedicated 22 with a Nelson Conversion. And here I thought you might be an ion-bond type guy, as opposed to the "flashy" type.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 9, 2017 20:01:03 GMT -5
One hard chromed gun was all I needed to own to understand that industrial chrome was my only choice if not blue..
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Post by awp101 on Jan 11, 2017 11:13:03 GMT -5
To drift this a little bit, how hard are 1911s on slide mounted scopes? I'd think the added slide motion would be harder on the scope than just normal recoil from a larger caliber revolver?
OK, I see where the slide mounted set-ups are for lighter target loads so that answers part of the question...
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Post by Markbo on Jan 11, 2017 15:30:55 GMT -5
You know those Bushnell trophy red dots Max is so fond of? I have one mounted on a .460 Rowland. It has survived 300-400 rounds very well. Unfortunately that is as high a round count as I have on anything other than a .22.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 11, 2017 16:48:44 GMT -5
Slide mount/frame mount.... Personally I'd not slide mount any scope on the slide of a full power 1911. Screws and pins shear.. Precision Pistol (Bullseye) shooters have mounted red dots on the slides of their paper punchers since the early 80s. More than just standing up to the recoil they must also have very precise and repeatable adjustments. The Aimpoint and Ultradot products have proven themselves. You will see them on the guns of the All National Guard Pistol Team and the All Army Pistol Team.
Not a fan of anything battery powered on anything that matters. I shoot slide mounted Burris scopes on my paper punchers. Did shoot my best scores when shooting Aimpoint red dots. Have been looking at Ultradots just this morning.
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Post by sportster on Jan 11, 2017 19:33:23 GMT -5
I have two Colt 1911's. One is a LWT Commander from the late 70's and the other is a 2009 production Combat Elite. I carry the Commander a lot. I trust it with my life if that tells you anything. The Combat Elite is a good gun but I had other ideas for it. I sent it off to Wilson Combat to get the front strap checkered and to get a longer barrel installed and threaded. They sent back a test target with it and it is a cloverleaf. They all have the battle rattle as my brother calls it. Not as tight of a fit as a custom gun. A friend has a Remington 1911 that runs pretty good. Anymore I can't bash on any one brand because they are all turning out pretty good guns.
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