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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 14, 2016 17:47:44 GMT -5
David, if you might humor me just a little more I would also like to get your perspective as a well out of his twenties shooter as to the front sight details. I'm quite sure my friend Curt will want to open a vein when he reads this but I have no intention of doing multiple gold bars in the front sight that at my age I can't focus on. Instead I'm thinking not pinning in the front but using screws so I can change the blade to accommodate different bullet weights.
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Post by rugerdude on Nov 14, 2016 21:55:48 GMT -5
Definitely gonna keep and eye on this one! Sounds like it will be a most interesting journey! Don't know if you've seen them or not but it's worth the time to search 2Dogs past threads on two other builds he has chronicled here. One is his .327/32-20 build and his .257 Jackrabbit build. 2Dogs has been gracious enough and patient enough to take us along for the ride on his projects. It's educational and at times very entertaining to follow him. He is also instrumental in starting group buys for bullet moulds through Miha that otherwise we would probably never see. Fermin is leaving a path and legacy available for future generations that could stand up to the best of past leaders in the firearms industry. Of course Lee Martin and David Bradshaw has to be included in 2Dogs group. Truly some amazing knowledge among the members of this fine forum. I read through his build on the .257 Jackrabbit and have to say I was very impressed. When I get a little time I'll hunt down his write up on the .327/.32-20. I have to say that looking at his builds and many others here have flung a craving on me! Unfortunately, my bank account won't tolerate a custom build right now!
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 15, 2016 7:53:15 GMT -5
"I have no intention of doing multiple gold bars in the front sight that at my age I can't focus on. Instead I'm thinking not pinning in the front but using screws so I can change the blade to accommodate different bullet weights.”----2 Dogs *** Fermin.... in complete agreement on interchangeability of front blade. The multiple bar idea would not have held up in silhouette, where a sight picture must remain consistent over long strings of fire under changing light. An interchangeable blade offers the opportunity to vary WIDTH as well as HEIGHT. One may learn to shoot the GOLD BARS well, I have no doubt. What range are those gold bars fixed at? Can anyone provide that specification? Or, are they decoration for 99.9% of shots fired?
Yes, a major advantage of the interchangeable blade lies in mating WIDTH to your eye. With all the variables of eye relief, individual eyesight, and sight radius. The only constant is SIGHT RADIUS, yet within that specification, SIGHT PICTURE varies as EYE RELIEF stretches or shrinks with shifts in our shooting position. The eye is a wonderful instrument, capable of incredible adjustment. Within that, age degrades focus. The custom pistol presents the opportunity to make a sight right for one set of eyes.
Positions & eye relief * Offhand----modified Weaver: moderate. * Offhand----isosceles: long. * Kneeling----short. * Sitting----moderate. * Prone----short. * Sandbag----variable, short too long. * Back rest----long. * Creedmoor----longest.
Eye relief * Short----widens notch. * Long----narrows notch.
A blade & notch of equal width works well with up to 4-inches of barrel. From 5-1/2 inches, we desire the alignment ease of a narrower window. A long barrel prefers a finer notch. Too much light to either side of the blade degrades alignment----in both windage & elevation.
Thus, a starting point for your revolver may find the window .010-to-..020” thinner than the blade. I would look at the sights as a variable component, whether TANGENT or LEAF or MICROMETER, with blade and notch subject to replacement as determined at the target. David Bradshaw
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Post by jimtx on Nov 15, 2016 10:43:56 GMT -5
Good thing the 3leaf rear will be used, for different width rear blades to be used. Sometimes based on front sight type, I use a narrow rear blade with a shorter barreled gun.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 15, 2016 15:34:47 GMT -5
Wanted to stop for a minute and thank everyone for taking the time to participate and for all the kind words. I very much appreciate the support and can't leave out the guys who helped me chase down parts. I try not to get too serious and wonder if any legacy will be known as "That fool with a file"!!! :-)
Thanks guys.
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Post by cmh on Nov 15, 2016 16:12:00 GMT -5
No fool in it..... more of a man with a vision and letting folks share it.... I personally am enjoying and learning from this thread as well as your thread on Hoovers Hammer.... good stuff!!!
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Post by paulg on Nov 15, 2016 19:30:12 GMT -5
No fool in it..... more of a man with a vision and letting folks share it.... I personally am enjoying and learning from this thread as well as tour thread on Hoovers Hammer.... good stuff!!! Amen to that!!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 20, 2016 21:01:30 GMT -5
The KSA will require the existing hammer notches to be welded over, relocated, and recut. I did not want to take a perfectly good and expensive Clements Bisley hammer and experiment on it. Again, a forum member came to the rescue. TimP, thank you very much. Tim provided me with a Ruger OM hammer with damage to the notches. This is going to get a bit interesting as now not only to we have to work over the notches but we also have to weld up a Bisley hump to include a hammer travel stop and graft on a from scratch Bisley spur. We also have lighten our hammer as per Keith. Definitely traveling the old trails now. Here is a picture of a KSA sixgun with a lightened hammer. Here is an interesting tidbit from Mike Hutyra. He tells me he tried to buy the King Short Action Colt pictured above and shown in the Home Gunsmithing the Colt SA book. He told me it went for 22,000 US dollars.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 20, 2016 21:07:08 GMT -5
This from my good friend Mike Hutyra. Here is a very interesting Colt he purchased sometime back. He credits the find to our very own Cubrock, or Steve Webb. Again, here is a guy who is not only "in the know" but a shaker and mover for sure and a subtle one at that. Thanks again Steve!!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 20, 2016 21:09:07 GMT -5
What Mike did not know at the time of the purchase is that this Colt has a King Short Action job!! Check out the adjustable sights and the cockeyed hammer:
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 20, 2016 21:12:52 GMT -5
Here, the hammer is in the 1st notch or safety position, just enough clearance to clear the primer...
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 20, 2016 21:13:40 GMT -5
This is what the half cock position looks like:
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 20, 2016 21:18:01 GMT -5
Here is full cock position. Mike describes the KSA as having "half" the hammer jar of a normal Colt. He also runs a very stout 2400 load through this gun with excellent accuracy to 600 yards. Mike says if you can hold it, it can deliver. I don't see any welding on the back of the hammer to limit travel. While Mike believes this one to be a Kings Job we don't know for sure if it didn't come later. I have so many questions about this sixgun I don't even know where to start. Is the hammer travel stop internal? I would love to get my hands on it and do some measuring and shooting....
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Post by princeout on Nov 20, 2016 21:53:12 GMT -5
I would love to get my hands on it and do some measuring and shooting.... Road Trip!!
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Post by paulg on Nov 21, 2016 6:34:01 GMT -5
What Mike did not know at the time of the purchase is that this Colt has a King Short Action job!! Check out the adjustable sights and the cockeyed hammer: What is the reason for the offset hammer spur? My OCD would be screaming at this. :-)
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