The One. A project and a discussion...

[2 Dogs]

Nov 13, 2016 15:02:34 GMT -5 JM said:

How difficult would it be to remove a certain depth of material from each side that follows the hammer's contour, yet leaves the center remaining?

Somewhat like a skeletonized hammer, but the material in the center remains.

Hope I was able to explain properly.

PS. How long do you think your project will retain its status as: "The One" ?

I suppose that depends on how much the hammer fills the "well" in the frame. Thinning it too much might leave a window for debris to get by the sides of the hammer....

As to how long it would keep it's status as The One, who knows....

[JM]

I was thinking about leaving the hammer full width in the area that sits inside the frame when the hammer is down & then a skeletonized profile for the exposed portion, with a border around the perimeter.

Might not provide enough benefit to justify the effort though.

[2 Dogs]

Nov 13, 2016 15:22:37 GMT -5 JM said:

I was thinking about leaving the hammer full width in the area that sits inside the frame when the hammer is down & then a skeletonized profile for the exposed portion, with a border around the perimeter.

Might not provide enough benefit to justify the effort though.

Now I see what you mean. Neat idea too.

[bushog]

Doesn't the hammer have to have enough weight to generate enough inertia to set the primer off?

[2 Dogs]

It sure does. Uncharted territory for sure. Not for the meek. On the other hand what if we strike gold and create a new trend???

[cmh]

Nov 13, 2016 16:55:12 GMT -5 bushog said:

Doesn't the hammer have to have enough weight to generate enough inertia to set the primer off?

Not to wonder away from Mr Fermins thread but I remember seeing a pic of Mr Bradshaws FA 44 mag with a drilled/lightened hammer and he had no issues he said......

[paulg]

I looked back at your .327/32-20 project to see that hammer. I like the looks of that hammer much better than what would be the "dished out" version suggested. I see a lot of those types of hammers on cheap 1911's and such. Did Mr. Keith or anyone involved with his projects record how much weight they took off the hammer? I guess you would need to know how much the hammer weighed prior to surgery? If I understand correctly you will be adding a Bisley spur? Is that correct? If so maybe the spur itself could be made of a lighter alloy and you could cut the weight that way instead of finding a way to lighten it by removing material. Like I said, just chuckin marbles at it since I have several extra rolling around in my skull.

[mike454]

Nov 13, 2016 17:09:46 GMT -5 2 Dogs said:

It sure does. Uncharted territory for sure. Not for the meek. On the other hand what if we strike gold and create a new trend???

Interestingly enough, guys tuning their centerfire S&Ws for light weight DA pulls found a lighter bobbed hammer sets off a primer better than the standard weight hammer. it will be interesting to see if this carries through to ruger single actions.

[2 Dogs]

Nov 13, 2016 18:23:47 GMT -5 paulg said:

I looked back at your .327/32-20 project to see that hammer. I like the looks of that hammer much better than what would be the "dished out" version suggested. I see a lot of those types of hammers on cheap 1911's and such. Did Mr. Keith or anyone involved with his projects record how much weight they took off the hammer? I guess you would need to know how much the hammer weighed prior to surgery? If I understand correctly you will be adding a Bisley spur? Is that correct? If so maybe the spur itself could be made of a lighter alloy and you could cut the weight that way instead of finding a way to lighten it by removing material. Like I said, just chuckin marbles at it since I have several extra rolling around in my skull.

Just keep shaking those marbles. Doing good. Thanks for the food for thought!

[kings6]

Skelatize the hammer for looks if you want but do a tungsten insert in the face for the weight needed to activate the primer if the skelatized look is what you are going after. Just another wild marble shake!

[potatojudge]

Would one of David's skeletonized OM bisley hammers work if the lower portion was taken off and the sides welded up for width? Clements does his own EDM I thought so maybe he could be talked into doing the lightening while he's got it. Just a thought, though that still puts you in the position of working the notches on an expensive hammer...

www.clementscustomguns.com/itemsforsale.html

Maybe the one bottom row, just right of center?

[mike454]

Just a guess, but I think you'll find you can lighten a Ruger SA hammer quite a bit before you run into problems.

[Fowler]

I think I f you take weight from the middle of the hammer it wouldn't effect the weight of the spur or the thrust of its impact.

[rugerdude]

Definitely gonna keep and eye on this one! Sounds like it will be a most interesting journey!

[paulg]

Nov 14, 2016 0:29:46 GMT -5 rugerdude said:

Definitely gonna keep and eye on this one! Sounds like it will be a most interesting journey!

Don't know if you've seen them or not but it's worth the time to search 2Dogs past threads on two other builds he has chronicled here. One is his .327/32-20 build and his .257 Jackrabbit build. 2Dogs has been gracious enough and patient enough to take us along for the ride on his projects. It's educational and at times very entertaining to follow him. He is also instrumental in starting group buys for bullet moulds through Miha that otherwise we would probably never see. Fermin is leaving a path and legacy available for future generations that could stand up to the best of past leaders in the firearms industry. Of course Lee Martin and David Bradshaw has to be included in 2Dogs group. Truly some amazing knowledge among the members of this fine forum.