mar
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300 H&H
Dec 27, 2015 20:29:27 GMT -5
Post by mar on Dec 27, 2015 20:29:27 GMT -5
Anyone have any experience with this round? Would you recommend it and in what rifle? There doesn't seem to be new production rifles in this caliber unless you go custom or semi-custom ( ex. Cooper, Dakota,etc) It seems like there are some Winchester M70s available still. Just curious what your experiences are with this round and in what rifle. thanks Marshall
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Otony
.327 Meteor
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Post by Otony on Dec 27, 2015 21:12:47 GMT -5
I have a Boddington Ruger #1 in .300H&H, and regard it as a perfect vehicle for 180+ grain bullets, preferably 200 or 220. While it can more or less duplicate .300 Winchester Magnum loads, I prefer to think of it as what the designers at Holland & Holland termed it, a Super 30. That is to say, it will deliver higher velocities using heavier weight bullets than the trustworthy .30-06. A .30-06 on steroids, if you will, which is a handy rifle to have for elk or moose.
It is a great round, of that there can be very little doubt, but with the advent of "modern" bullets (and short magnums, though those can hardly be thought of as new anymore) it doesn't shine quite as brightly as it once did. It won't accomplish anything a .300 Winchester cannot do, but it certainly does so with old world class and panache.
Honestly, if I could have found a Ruger #1-S in .30-06, I would have probably bought that instead, if only for the sake of easily obtained brass. but failing that I can say that this is an upgrade, a superior chambering.
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Post by nolongcolt on Dec 27, 2015 22:01:53 GMT -5
Otony is right all the way on this. Its a classic round, easy to get to shoot well, feeds easy in about any rifle, due to its long missile like shape, no hard turns until the belt. Shoots very well and has won long range championships years ago. My brother took mine to Namibia in 07 and did well with it. Our pet load was about 69grs of R22 behind a 200gr Nosler Partition. Great load, shot well and hit hard. That was a Remington Classic model, 24" barrel, classic style stock. I believe it was 2nd or 3rd in the classic line.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Dec 27, 2015 22:12:44 GMT -5
I think of the 300 HH the same as a classic muscle car, it will do everything you should need of a 30 cal, and it does it with old school class and style. It's not the flashy kid on the block anymore, it needs a long action, when everyone seems to want short actions for "stiffness" and shorter bolt stroke length. But if you can get the job done with one round who cares if you need to run the bolt an extra 1/2" or so to rechamber. It is my Grail round for an all around the globe hunter, of thin skinned big game. I too feel it is at its best with 180 gr and heavier bullets, my favorite platform would be a single shot, either no1 or Dakota, but a euro break open Kipplauf would be perfect for me.
i think it's a terrific round.
trapr
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300 H&H
Dec 27, 2015 22:46:11 GMT -5
Post by mart on Dec 27, 2015 22:46:11 GMT -5
I've had one for the last 25+ years. My first was a superbly accurate Remington 721. It made me fall in love with the round and I ended up having Remington's custom shop build me a left handed KS Mountain Rifle in 300 H&H. It's been one more hunts with me than any other rifle and accounted for whitetails, mule deer, elk, antelope and caribou. I've run everything from 130 grain hollow points for varmints to 220 grain Nosler Partitions through this rifle and it handles them all well. I have a few favorites when it comes to rifle cartridges and the 300 H&H is one of the top three.
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 9:03:02 GMT -5
Post by Ken O'Neill on Dec 28, 2015 9:03:02 GMT -5
I owned a Win. Mdl. 70 in .300 H&H for about 15 years, and used in hunting in this country, in Australia, and in South Africa. I used only 180 gr. bullets, and liked it a lot. That combination of cartridge and that particular rifle was the smoothest, quietest feeding rifle I've ever owned. I sold nearly all of my rifles, or I would still own that one today.
It is true that any other .300 Mag. will accomplish the same things (or more) as the .300 H&H, but they won't do it with more style or panache.
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Post by zeus on Dec 28, 2015 12:07:33 GMT -5
Awesome round with lots of history. Coupled with the Dakota rifle, that would just be amazing. Don't toss the Dakotas out of the running. The used ones can be found if you look for reasonable prices and the fit/feel of them is hard to beat. The stock design is like a fine English shotgun and points just as well. AND, I've yet to shoot one that wasn't extremely accurate! Not a great pic but here are my current Dakotas. All of them were sent to KS via NM
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Post by kings6 on Dec 28, 2015 13:44:40 GMT -5
Dang it Glenn, I was looking at the Dakota website last night and figuring out if I wanted to sell a few things and order one and your pictures just make it tougher to decide.
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 15:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by zeus on Dec 28, 2015 15:09:54 GMT -5
There's nothing like them Robb. You wanting a single shot or a bolt? The big 375 H&H on the left shoots 270 Barnes bullets into 5/8" all day long from the bench at 100 yards and is a pleasure to shoot. I'm not maxed out on he powder charge but about a grain or so low, it's running about 2715 fps with that 270 grainer. It has hammered everything we've shot with it over the last couple years. The M10 shot all in one group the one day I put it on paper. Wish I could remember the load! Haven't shot it since. It spent a short time in AK before it came back home. It is a fine shouldering rifle for sure!! The 300 WSM is in the middle and to be honest, I haven't had time to shoot it yet
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 15:18:55 GMT -5
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Post by kings6 on Dec 28, 2015 15:18:55 GMT -5
I love single shot rifles so I would probably order a #10 when the time comes.
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 15:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by BigBore44 on Dec 28, 2015 15:47:10 GMT -5
Zeus Those are Gorgeous! Love the dark furniture on the middle rifle. I too am a sucker for single shots and yours looks like a dandy... Do you happen to have a close up of the receiver sides of that single shot?
Thanks for sharing those... BigBore44
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 15:55:13 GMT -5
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Post by zeus on Dec 28, 2015 15:55:13 GMT -5
I don't think I do but I can get some one afternoon. It's a French grey finish on the receiver and rings. Neat rifle but chambered in 300 Dakota which is "lively" in this light rifle from the bench. The wood on the middle gun needs to be seen in person. It looks like marble. I think it is Turkish Walnut if I remember correctly from Dakotas notes. I can't remember what Bushog referred to it as due to the marbling but the wood is what made me want the rifle. It's amazing in person. The 375 is an interesting one. It's one of only four or five they ever built that used a Jewell trigger versus the standard Mauser trigger style that they use. They said it took way too much work to rework the receiver and didn't do anymore. Cool rifle for sure. Only pics I see that may show the receiver better. I'll have to get some one day.
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mar
.30 Stingray
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 16:26:39 GMT -5
Post by mar on Dec 28, 2015 16:26:39 GMT -5
Glenn, I wish one of your Dakotas was a 300 H&H so that I could try and talk you out of it! They truly have classic looks and style. What do you guys think of Cooper firearms? They aren't as expensive as the Dakota but look pretty good. Thanks for all the input so far!
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 16:33:46 GMT -5
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Post by zeus on Dec 28, 2015 16:33:46 GMT -5
Ive only owned a couple of Coopers. They are nice guns but they aren't in the the same as the Dakota from the examples I've had. But, they don't cost near as much either. I had one that shot really well and one that my Rugers would blow out of the water accuracy wise. Their wood even when upgraded isn't as nice as the Dakotas always seeming to be very straight grained and the stock design is different. Hard to explain until you shoulder one.
Having said that, look around, you may be surprised and find a like new Dakota for the price of a Cooper. Cabelas seems to always have a decent supply of used ones...
A trip to your closest Cabelas could at least let you shoulder both possibly and get a better feel of each.
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300 H&H
Dec 28, 2015 17:22:42 GMT -5
Post by bushog on Dec 28, 2015 17:22:42 GMT -5
When I saw that wood for the 1st time I called it Perazzi wood.
That .375 has a cool trap in the grip too!
You shoot that .300 WSM yet?
Maybe they will come home some day.......
The only 2 Dakotas I have left are a .300 win and a .375 H&H, both built by Mark Bansner with fluted Lilja barrels.
They are MUCH more accurate than the factory Dakota guns and I've owned a whole bunch of them.
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