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Post by sixshot on Jan 13, 2015 17:40:34 GMT -5
Wish I could see one of the Delta Points up close & personal. I just bought another one of the Ultra Dots since my eyes are changing so much but the dot doesn't look round & thats with my glasses on or off. Probably not the fault of the dot, just me but mine looks like it has 2 tiny legs on it instead of being round. Anyone else having the same problem with the red dots? Would much rather stay with iron sights but 70 yrs old & diabetes changes the rules.
Dick
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Post by zeus on Jan 13, 2015 18:29:21 GMT -5
I'll bring it with me next time we see each other. That wont be too long from now.
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Post by Markbo on Jan 13, 2015 19:39:38 GMT -5
Question...did you try Dick's load of 4227 in your gun too? Just curious how you arrived at your load.
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Post by zeus on Jan 13, 2015 21:25:28 GMT -5
No. Just HS6. I have always used 14 grains for about 1050 but moved to 14.5 for an even 1100.
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Post by bushog on Jan 13, 2015 22:16:32 GMT -5
Isn't that the same load as for the .500L that John uses for the 435s?
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Post by zeus on Jan 14, 2015 7:31:35 GMT -5
I think I used 16 in the 500 but I'd have to double check it. 14 is the one I've used for the last dozen years or so in the 475 but switched it to 15 when I shot the bison and wanted it slower so settled on 14.5. Funny thing is that all of the charges print VERY small groups so you can't go wrong, but with the soft slugs, 1100 is magic hence the random 14.5 grain load.
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Post by Markbo on Jan 14, 2015 13:32:46 GMT -5
[quote author=" zeus" source="/post/154662/thread" timestamp="1421238695"..., but with the soft slugs, 1100 is magic hence the random 14.5 grain load....[/quote] Why is that? |
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Post by zeus on Jan 14, 2015 14:33:18 GMT -5
Its all about matching the speed/velocity with the alloy. 1100 allows amazing expansion without overdriving and losing the front end typically and doesn't lead up the barrel. At 1170, I would see slight leading after about 20 rounds hence the reason I dropped the speed, I also lost some of the petal on the front in the outside shoulder of the bison. So I settled on 1100. We haven't found a critter yet that cares for it. If you want more velocity for whatever reason, you will have to change the alloy comp and let the guy know that is casting them if it isn't yourself the intended velocity or you will be disappointed in results possibly. I haven't found any load in all the years loading for the 480/475 that doesn't shoot well with HS6 so I wasn't worried about the accuracy. They all shoot better groups than I can so it was just a matter of finding the velocity that this big HP excelled at. If you want to try this big HP, don't overthink it. Whatever powder you have, find the load that puts you in the 1100 fps area and see how it shoots, if its accurate, you are golden. If not, I'd probably find a keg of HS6 or another powder to try.
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Post by Markbo on Jan 14, 2015 15:52:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation. I cant imagine anything I will ever shoot that needs more velocity. Less maybe for me.  |
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Post by Lee Martin on Jan 14, 2015 18:41:48 GMT -5
Impressive expansion and an equally impressive hog Glenn. And as always, a very nice write-up. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time" |
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Post by bushog on Jan 15, 2015 20:34:22 GMT -5
Is there a way to mount one of those sights on a Ruger bisley?
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Post by bushog on Jan 15, 2015 20:46:26 GMT -5
Its all about matching the speed/velocity with the alloy. 1100 allows amazing expansion without overdriving and losing the front end typically and doesn't lead up the barrel. At 1170, I would see slight leading after about 20 rounds hence the reason I dropped the speed, I also lost some of the petal on the front in the outside shoulder of the bison. So I settled on 1100. We haven't found a critter yet that cares for it. If you want more velocity for whatever reason, you will have to change the alloy comp and let the guy know that is casting them if it isn't yourself the intended velocity or you will be disappointed in results possibly. I haven't found any load in all the years loading for the 480/475 that doesn't shoot well with HS6 so I wasn't worried about the accuracy. They all shoot better groups than I can so it was just a matter of finding the velocity that this big HP excelled at. If you want to try this big HP, don't overthink it. Whatever powder you have, find the load that puts you in the 1100 fps area and see how it shoots, if its accurate, you are golden. If not, I'd probably find a keg of HS6 or another powder to try. The following is from a post Dick made called "The 480 Rocks" about 2 1/2 years ago. I have it bookmarked and printed out. Some of the best casting info I've ever gotten. Thanks again! This is from the post: Forgot, the alloy I'm using is my 70/30 alloy, thats 70% WW's & 30% pure lead. I've gave this out before but here it is again. We'll start at 1000 fps. 1000 fps===70% WW's & 30% lead 1100 fps===80% WW's & 20% lead 1200 fps===90% WW's & 10% lead and then going down from 1000 fps 900 fps===60% WW's & 40% lead 800 fps===50% WW's & 50 % lead For HP lead bullets I have used this formula since the 60's. Remember, in the 1800's many million of buffalo, deer & elk were killed with pure lead, many from single action Colts at about 900 fps. |
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Post by zeus on Jan 15, 2015 21:33:13 GMT -5
Is there a way to mount one of those sights on a Ruger bisley? I bet there is a mount that would work. I think they make a crossbolt mount that fits to a picatinny rail. |
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Post by bushog on Jan 15, 2015 21:42:56 GMT -5
UGLY!!!!!!
(easy now...)
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Post by Fowler on Jan 15, 2015 22:11:30 GMT -5
Is there a way to mount one of those sights on a Ruger bisley? I know someone makes one, My friend Gregg Richter has one on his 475 Bisley but I would have to ask him who made the base. Works great though. |
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