aidan
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Post by aidan on Aug 8, 2014 13:26:42 GMT -5
I was bragging about my 686 and a friend told me to meet him at the range this morning where he let me shoot his 6" Colt Python. AMAZING Double action. I have never shot a revolver so smooth. Very impressed. Do any of you agree ?
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Post by skipper49 on Aug 8, 2014 14:31:43 GMT -5
Yep, but you can buy 3 or 4 nice 686's for what a Python cost. Python's are beautifully built revolvers, and I wish I'd invested in them 20 years ago. I also wish I'd hung onto the ones that have resided briefly at my house.
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Post by dougader on Aug 8, 2014 15:12:34 GMT -5
I watched a guy shoot his Python to death in IPSC matches. The last time, the cylinder just fell open during his run.
For the cost, an early Model 27/29/57 addressed with the touch of a knowledgeable gunsmith can make that double action just as amazing, IMO.
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Post by boxhead on Aug 9, 2014 7:00:27 GMT -5
This.
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Post by TERRY MURBACH on Aug 9, 2014 9:11:49 GMT -5
I would not take a DOZEN Colt Python sixguns for ONE of any S&W 357 sixgun I ever owned and still own. Pythons always were the most over ballyhooed and under performing sixgun ever foisted off on the American Public. In case you are wondering : I've had three over the years and if all three had had a 4' BBL at least I could have pounded 'em in the ground and grew tomatos on 'em. Why three...because I liked the way they looked and the way they felt, and that is ALL most of their buyers ever cared about anyways. They ALSO DO NOT---NOT---HOLD UP TO ANY SERIOUS LONG TERM SHOOTING, a Fact that kept pistolsmith Jerry Moran's family in bean'n'jeans for many decades.
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Post by boxhead on Aug 10, 2014 4:54:58 GMT -5
There's a surprise.... One that thinks age is knowledge.
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shorty500
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Post by shorty500 on Aug 10, 2014 8:38:23 GMT -5
unfortunately it works something like this- Colt DAs will shoot loose and out of time quicker with proper use,improper use and they fall apart overnite almost. a properly tuned S&W of any frame size gives up ZERO to the PYTHON and will last forever with normal use with little to no maintenance, abuse a Smith and it will outlast the Colt. it literally takes dynamite and idiots to wreck the Ruger DAs BUT and would love to be proved wrong, i have never seen a Ruger than can compete with the other 2 for smoothness regardless of who worked on it!
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awp101
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Post by awp101 on Aug 10, 2014 9:35:51 GMT -5
unfortunately it works something like this- Colt DAs will shoot loose and out of time quicker with proper use,improper use and they fall apart overnite almost. Is the Officers Model as delicate as the Python or is it more of an issue with the Python, Diamondback, etc?
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shorty500
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Post by shorty500 on Aug 10, 2014 10:15:30 GMT -5
its a Colt DA issue. when i refer to almost overnite though i am refering to extreme high volume competitive shooting. the Colts have never been really my cup of tea but are highly accurrate well made guns in most cases. the basic design of the Colt DA is weakest of whats generally out there.
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awp101
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Post by awp101 on Aug 10, 2014 11:36:15 GMT -5
Thanks! I've always heard about the Pythons going out of time fairly quickly (relatively speaking) but not the OM, etc. I'm not a Colt revolver guy either so maybe I just wasn't paying attention... For a long time, my signature line on various boards was a quote I picked up from somewhere that said "While the Python may be the better combat arm, when you run out of bullets noting screams "pistol whip" like an N-Frame".
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Post by Woodrow F Call on Aug 10, 2014 12:06:05 GMT -5
The Python is a really great firearm. It is the highly tuned, hand fitted, high end sports car of the wheel gun world. As a result, it requires attention that other guns may not.... not only that, it requires a real gunsmith who really knows and understands Colts. There are few real revolver gunsmiths out there and even fewer who really know Colts.
No other gun locks up like a an old colt, but that kind of action means something is going to wear.... Colt designed the hand to wear. If the hand isn't taken care of, things will go down hill fast.
Otherwise, the Python is a strong gun. It is just designed differently and most don't understand it.
I don't have a favorite.... IMO, they are just different. Each has there place.
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awp101
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Post by awp101 on Aug 10, 2014 16:30:26 GMT -5
Understood and I freely admit to a heavy S&W bias dating back over 20 years when I could (barely) afford a used S&W and a used Colt was just a pipedream. Once I went down the S&W road I found the Colts worked backwards from what I was used to.
I don't shoot fast or competitively so it may be a problem I never run into.
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Post by weagle99 on Aug 11, 2014 22:03:35 GMT -5
Is this the thread where S&W fans bash Colts for being 'delicate?' Is a Ferrari delicate compared to a Chevrolet?
The hand is a serviceable item on a Colt. People who know the guns understand this.
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Post by weagle99 on Aug 11, 2014 22:08:20 GMT -5
I would not take a DOZEN Colt Python sixguns for ONE of any S&W 357 sixgun I ever owned and still own. Pythons always were the most over ballyhooed and under performing sixgun ever foisted off on the American Public. In case you are wondering : I've had three over the years and if all three had had a 4' BBL at least I could have pounded 'em in the ground and grew tomatos on 'em. Why three...because I liked the way they looked and the way they felt, and that is ALL most of their buyers ever cared about anyways. They ALSO DO NOT---NOT---HOLD UP TO ANY SERIOUS LONG TERM SHOOTING, a Fact that kept pistolsmith Jerry Moran's family in bean'n'jeans for many decades. Do you understand that the hand is designed to take the punishment and is intended to be serviced at regular intervals? When the trigger is pulled the cylinder is locked in place completely on a Colt. What do you think is causing this to happen? How much movement is in a Smith cylinder when the trigger is pulled?
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Post by AxeHandle on Aug 12, 2014 7:32:39 GMT -5
The Python and all those similar action Colts are wonderful mechanical marvels. Guess I've owned a dozen or so through the years. Never held one that did not make me smile. My negative is that their action is so different. I can transition between a DW, S&W, or Ruger and all is well. Throw a Python in the mix and oops!
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