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Post by Gary @ R&G on Aug 8, 2009 13:17:49 GMT -5
I am currently building a Charlie Kelsey/Devel inspired 1911. That and the Pachmayr CS I just picked up got me thinking about innovations by the old time smiths. Behlerts finger groove front strap Swensons barrel positioner Swenson, Behlert, Hoag squared trigger guard Behlerts screw in bushing for 1911 and BHP
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Post by AxeHandle on Aug 8, 2009 13:29:56 GMT -5
Fling those PM CS pics up here too! We'll inspire somebody to buy it!
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Post by Gary @ R&G on Aug 8, 2009 13:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by AxeHandle on Aug 9, 2009 18:46:28 GMT -5
Man! You guys just don't realize what a bad custom 1911 itch I have.... I keep having flashbacks of my old Pachmyer CS everytime I look at those pics... Tried to call the old buddy I traded if off to 20 years ago... He wasn't home... Perhaps if I can hold out a few more days one of our forum fruitcakes will buy it!
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Post by kimr on Sept 21, 2009 16:08:13 GMT -5
Dont forget the Berdon "mousetrap"spring to push the bbl up into the slide!
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Post by Gary @ R&G on Sept 21, 2009 22:09:09 GMT -5
Actually the mousetrap was invented by RL Shockey of El Reno Oklahoma. He called it his "accuracy improver" but it became known as the mousetrap. The only guns I have seen with the mousetrap were Shockeys (and they are pretty common out here as El Reno is 35 miles west). Abe Berdon and Alton Dinan were contemporaries of Shockey's so who knows whose idea it was.
from a Gil Hebard catalog. (forgive the length)
Richard L. Shockey, El Reno, Oklahoma. Machinist, inventor, master pistol shot, gentleman and fabricator of fine target weapons. It is with pride that we offer his guns to our customers ... in he and Jim Clark we have two of the foremost pistol smiths in the country.
Shockey’s background qualifies him well for the exacting science of custom gunning. He served his machinist’s apprenticeship from 1928 to 1932 at the Landis Machine Co., in Waynesboro, PA. From 1932 to 1940 he was tool, die and gauge maker for the York Corporation at York, PA. From 1940 to 1948 he was tool room foreman for the Naval Ordnance Plant at York, PA. 1948 to 1953 found him working for the Department of Justice at the Federal prison at El Reno, OK, where he superintended the setting up their machine shop with full responsibility for production, quality control, design and metallurgy.
Through all these years Shockey was a registered pistol shooter (still is for that matter, Master classification) and is one of the few who has actively participated in the pistol game during the greater part of its modern day history. 1952 to 1954 were years devoted to experiment and invention and his growing interest in the shooter’s equipment problems, ammunition, ballistics, re-loading and the perfection of weapons, finally overcame his interest in the perfection of match scores, with the result that he decided to combine his engineering “know how” with his hobby and devote full time to pistolsmithing and related problems.
His success as a pistolsmith has been phenomenal. In the past 10 years he has established himself as one of the country’s best. His guns are in the hands of many top Military and Civilian shooters, who are using them with great and continued success.
If you decide on a Shockey you can rest assured that you are getting a gun redesigned by a man whose mechanical background coupled with his shooter’s knowledge of what the shooter needs, results in one of the best engineered and most accurate guns available.
Shockey Custom Heavy Slide .45
The heavy-slide .45, with its light recoil and pleasant handling characteristics has long been popular with many shooters, especially those who do not have the opportunity to practice or shoot a great deal. Its practical worth has been proven by a good number of name shooters and the championships they have won.
The Shockey Heavy-Slide includes every feature, and is identical in every way, to his famous Deluxe Custom .45 (opposite page) except a Bo-Mar Low Profile Rib has been utilized in place of the extended sight and frame weights. The result is a beautifully-handling, super-accurate gun weighing 44 ounces and with 7 1/8” sight radius. Trigger pull is approximately 3 1/2 - 3 3/4 pounds (or to your specifications.) Designed for factory wadcutter ammunition or reloads equivalent to 3.5 grains of Bullseye. Machine rest test target, instructions and written guarantee supplied with each gun. Shockey Heavy Slide .45 ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... Prepaid $179.50
Shockey’s fresh approach to the accurizing problem has resulted in a gun, while similar in many respects to others, nevertheless has unique features which make it outperform and outwear other custom guns. The guns are proven performers and their accuracy and reliability is now well established among critical shooters over the country.
All Shockey custom .45 autos are equipped with the Shockey heavy duty barrel bushing. This bushing is precision fit to the individual slide and also fit to closest possible tolerance to the outside diameter of the barrel. Aside from adding to accuracy this heavy bushing protects the careful crowning job on the muzzle, and is much more durable than a factory bushing.
All Shockey .45’s are now fitted with the exclusive and Patented Accuracy Improver and Recoil Reducer. This maintains a constant pressure on the barrel which compensates for any wear that might develop. More important, it reduces recoil, as the spring roller is working at all times during the complete cycle of the gun. This slows down the action somewhat, giving a heavy slide effect, reducing the twisting action of the gun and prolonging life of the accuracy job. Practically indestructible, it is especially valuable where relatively destructive GI or heavy loads are being used. However, the shooter of light .45 loads will gain the same advantages too, and will particularly like the cushioning effect the device produces.
The Deluxe Custom .45 Auto
Pride of the Shockey stable! Shockey has spared no expense in the development of this gun, and it has proven to be absolutely one of the finest .45 customs available. Its accuracy is amazing -- 1 1/4” groups or less guaranteed at 25 yards from a machine rest.
The extension sight gives a much needed 8 3/4” radius. The weights ahead of the trigger guard add 4 3/4 ounces (including DETACHABLE tube weight of 1 3/4 oz.). The forestrap is beautifully done in a matte (stippled) finish to minimize slippage in the hand. The precision Bo-Mar Deluxe sight tops off this masterpiece of gun fabrication.
New Colt .45 Autos are used exclusively. They are completely accurized, refitted and tightened. The patented Accuracy Improver and Recoil Reducer, and heavy duty bushing is included. It has a complete trigger job including hand-honed action, trigger stop, removal of excess play, speed hammer, etc. Trigger pull to your specifications (approx. 3 3/4 lbs. otherwise). Total weight 44 1/2 oz. empty. Machine rest test targets, instructions, recommended loading information and written guarantee included with each gun. For those who desire the best, this gun certainly deserves the most serious consideration. Prepaid ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... $192.50
Shockey Hard Ball .45 Custom Auto
The Shockey Hard Ball Custom is accurized and re-worked internally, exactly the same as the Deluxe Custom .45 listed above. Meets all competitive rules . . . has every desirable feature allowable under service match rules.
The Patented Recoil Reducer is of special value in this gun when shooting the heavy load service ammunition. The Deluxe Bo-Mar sight with undercut front post gives a sight radius just under the allowable 7”. Completely rebuilt and accurized to Shockey’s highest standards. Handles hand-loads equally well so makes a superb dual purpose weapon.
Sold with test target, instructions and written guarantee. Prepaid ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... $169.50
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Post by Markbo on Sept 22, 2009 10:52:05 GMT -5
Gary I have never seen a trigger set up like that one in the first pic. Can you tell me about it please?
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Post by Gary @ R&G on Sept 22, 2009 15:00:10 GMT -5
That is a Louis Seecamp double action conversion on a Behlert mini combat. The trigger pivots in the frame. It has a draw bar on the right side that allows double action function. The shortened factory trigger behind the pivoting trigger allows for normal SA function when cocked. Clear as mud? Behlert also had a patented pivoting trigger for single actions. the back of the pivoting trigger contacted the shortened factory trigger giving a mechancial advantage which resulted in a sub 3 pund trigger pull.
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