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Post by Markbo on May 30, 2014 12:47:54 GMT -5
Well clearly not everyone is entitled to their own opinion here.
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Post by bushog on May 30, 2014 13:15:05 GMT -5
The mid-frame guns according to Hamilton will take the "ruger only" loads NOT the hot 5 shot full frame loads that say for example John Linebaugh lists in his fine article on the subject.
That load is pushing a 325gn bullet right at 1100 fps and is plenty for most uses in my opinion. If I want more I have other guns.
To get my two cents in Ed was just suggesting going ahead and buying a new custom. He has inspired more than one I've had built and has contributed frequently to the forum.
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Post by Paden on Jun 8, 2014 17:27:01 GMT -5
What can a 5 hole .45 kill that a 6 hole .45 can't?
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Post by princeout on Jun 8, 2014 19:28:31 GMT -5
What can a 5 hole .45 kill that a 6 hole .45 can't? Probably nothing I'll ever see, but it would be nice insurance as long as the shooter is comfortable shooting it. I have several Ruger .45 only load guns, one Ruger, 5 shot 45 only load, large frame gun and one Ruger .45 only load mid frame gun on the way - thanks Bushog! The large frame 5 shot Harton 45 can really move the 360 grain bullet. It is a comfortable gun to shoot, partly due to the weight of the gun. I've been tempted many times to pick up a 6 shot mid-frame gun or an old Colt, but then I'd have to be cautious about the lower pressured loads and the high pressured loads getting mixed up. I already have that issue with 45-70 rifles and it does give me pause. Tim
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Post by Paden on Jun 8, 2014 23:11:11 GMT -5
I've always figured that since you can safely push a 350 grain slug to 1200 fps in a 6 hole .45 Blackhawk, Redhawk or similar, and kill anything that walks with it, there was no reason to go to a 5 hole and generate higher pressure, other than for the sake of proving you can. I'd rather have the 'insurance' of the additional round. To each his own tho, eh?
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Post by bigbores on Jun 9, 2014 0:49:00 GMT -5
I've always figured that since you can safely push a 350 grain slug to 1200 fps in a 6 hole .45 Blackhawk, Redhawk or similar, and kill anything that walks with it, there was no reason to go to a 5 hole and generate higher pressure, other than for the sake of proving you can. I'd rather have the 'insurance' of the additional round. To each his own tho, eh? With that logic the same could be said about the 340Gr bullet in a 44mag. why bother with over-sized chambers and tight throats of the 45Colt when there are so many 44Mags out there? I suspect there are some 41Mag fans out there that might go so far...
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Post by Paden on Jun 9, 2014 2:47:39 GMT -5
With that logic the same could be said about the 340Gr bullet in a 44mag... Naw. I weren't arguing for going down in size and WAY up in pressure... Come to think of it, I weren't arguing at all. Just don't see no need for a body to limit hisself to 5, what he can do the same with 6, is all.
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Post by CraigC on Jun 9, 2014 10:09:14 GMT -5
If you can't do it in five, there's nothing magical about #6.
The five-shot guns offer several advantages. First, a much greater safety margin and that applies to all loads. Second, properly cut, minimum spec chambers with proper throats. Third, they are typically linebored and that can be a serious accuracy upgrade, coupled with a new premium barrel. Fourth, it also gives you the option of running up to 55,000psi.
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Post by bigbores on Jun 9, 2014 10:59:40 GMT -5
CraigC and I are one the same page.
I would like to offer one more reason, weight, my 3.5"barreled 97 is almost a full pound lighter than a blackhawk.
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Post by wildwillalaska on Jun 9, 2014 13:26:32 GMT -5
A full-house custom, including custom 5-hole cylinder, is something to behold. I have had several custom 6-shot and a few 5-shot 45's, and there is a big different in the fit and lock-up of a custom gun using an over-bored factory cylinder vs. an oversize custom cylinder. They are all sweet rigs, but the 5-shots are just a big step above. Play with a couple side-by-side and the questions of why will disappear completely.
If we had more folks asking why and less asking why not, there would be no 44mag, let alone the options of Linebaugh's and JRH's cartridges or whats yet to come along. So with the most enthusiastic haste--go get you a 5-shot 45, call Bowen or Harton or JRH or Clements or Linebaugh and never look back. If you later decide you should have gotten a 6-holer, give me a shout, I can come up with a trade or some such for ya.
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Post by 500fksjr on Jun 9, 2014 13:39:42 GMT -5
A full-house custom, including custom 5-hole cylinder, is something to behold. I have had several custom 6-shot and a few 5-shot 45's, and there is a big different in the fit and lock-up of a custom gun using an over-bored factory cylinder vs. an oversize custom cylinder. They are all sweet rigs, but the 5-shots are just a big step above. Play with a couple side-by-side and the questions of why will disappear completely. If we had more folks asking why and less asking why not, there would be no 44mag, let alone the options of Linebaugh's and JRH's cartridges or whats yet to come along. So with the most enthusiastic haste--go get you a 5-shot 45, call Bowen or Harton or JRH or Clements or Linebaugh and never look back. If you later decide you should have gotten a 6-holer, give me a shout, I can come up with a trade or some such for ya. Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!! and amen....
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