dmize
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Post by dmize on Feb 3, 2014 20:52:05 GMT -5
Makes the time my wife shot the ramrod out of her .36 T/C look like a non issue.
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Post by Cholla on Feb 4, 2014 16:47:37 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly, it's a well known fact that 338 Lapua brass is notorously difficult to extract to the extent that a cleaning rod must be kept close when firing ones rifle? That begs the question: Why would anyone want a rifle so chambered if they have to knock brass out with a cleaning rod? Seems like a questionable trade-off; extra velocity for knocking brass out with a rod.
Cholla
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Post by buckheart on Feb 5, 2014 6:34:52 GMT -5
+1 on what Cholla said. There must comparable alternatives that function normally with out getting primitive to eject spent brass.
dmize - Don't tell anybody but I got the ram rod stuck in my .36 caliber TC while cleaning and shot it out. I had to take the nipple off and pack a bit of FFFg in and touch it off.
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Post by bulasteve on Feb 5, 2014 9:26:43 GMT -5
Would chroming the chamber, or some other type of coating be of any help ? Are the Mil folks in the middle-east experiencing this ? How do they deal ? Curious. steve
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 5, 2014 10:03:16 GMT -5
Close tolerances and careful finishing are themes inescapable in the work and writing of Lee Martin. Said attention to detail is a hallmark of Dick Casull's cartridge and revolver development; talent likewise distinguishing top revolver and rifle builders infecting this forum.
CONTAINMENT is an imperative of playing HOT. Careful chambering of the Ruger .357 Maximum contributes the worthiness of that revolver. Likewise Sig Himmelman's Seville and the Dan Wesson M40.
The brass case is the head gasket of a cartridge firearm. Whether failure to extract in the Savage .338 Lapua is a brass problem, a chamber problem, a load problem, or a combination, it leads to the ramrod caper. And the rest, as they say, spells KA-BOOM!
David Bradshaw
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Post by lostcoyote on Feb 28, 2014 14:28:23 GMT -5
hmmmm...
i read somewhere awhile back that the Savage 338 lapuas (Remingtons also) use receivers and barrels that are on the smaller side for this caliber.
too bad about his gun blowing up - glad he didn't get hurt.
as for extraction troubles, maybe the loads were too far on the hot side.
a lot is posted on websites with 93 and higher loads - and jamming the rounds into the barrels lands which creates even more pressure
i have a surgeon 338 lapua and have not had any extraction problems even at 92.5gr of h1000... but i also back off the lands.
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Post by seancass on Mar 1, 2014 13:17:49 GMT -5
A gent on another forum posted these same pictures. A couple replies to that thread said it was common to use a cleaning rod as a chamber flag to prove the gun was unloaded during a cease fire, without having to move the gun from it's rest. Could be what happened here.
Or maybe it was just sticky brass.
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Post by bradshaw on Mar 1, 2014 15:09:59 GMT -5
seancass.... fellows on another site use cleaning rod as a chamber flag? Perhaps it is time such so-called adults take a note from the junior riflery kids in 4-H, etc., who run weed whacker string from action through muzzle to indicate action open/chamber clear.
David Bradshaw
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jsh
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Post by jsh on Mar 1, 2014 15:43:31 GMT -5
In some of my readings on the breach seaters it was heard of to forget to remove the false muzzle. I have seen guys use a large disk of plastic slid over a cleaning rod for this very purpose.
Ditto on those 4H kids. Man can those little devils shoot too! Pretty fortunate at my club. There are now three kids out of 4H that are on the USA shooting team, two young fellows and a girl a junior in high school.
Jeff
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