Bikers attack SUV in NY.

[nolongcolt]

Anyone besides me feel like he was watching the movie "Mad Max" in seeing the video of those a-holes attacking a man and his family in their car? I used to think stuff like that was far off into the future. The future is now! This went on for some miles I guess. Not a bloody cop to be found!

[lange1]

Musta been why they drove into the city - probably on the phone calling 911 to no avail. If there was ever an argument for carry, this is it.

[magnumwheelman]

I have a bike license, but am not "a biker" personally I think a "real" bike club aught to go there, find those wannabee's & kick some butt... they were driving like asses to start with, then occupying all the lanes, & from what I saw, encouraged the confrontation...

you can bet if I had a wife & baby in the car, the 2nd that helmet hit my window, the owner would be looking down my barrel & listening to my commands... which would begin... I fear for the life of my family & myself, as I was drawing

[tek4260]

He should have run all the apes on cycles down with his suv.

[bagdadjoe]

I've been through 7 bikes in the last 40+ years so I'm not anti biker...and I agree, about 30 of these idiots should have had Michelen Man prints all over their butts. The guy on the bike provoked the whole mess. I've been reading in other forums and it seems there's a group of black riders who do this all the time. Provoke a nudge or a bent fender and then pile on the unsuspecting victim when he stops and beats him senseless. Not singling out black riders by any means, I get along with everybody just fine..just so happens the rotten group is such. Apparently the attacks are racially motivated, as in this case, the SUV driver was Asian. Has anyone wondered exactly why the cameraman had his video rolling the whole time in a boring piece of landscape unless he was expecting something "exciting" to happen? Maybe a little more sport than he bargained for.

[bigbores]

Funny, everyone sees a few minutes of video and then knows exactly what happen, not to defend there actions but I would bet the driver did something that set them off like almost hit one of them, ran someone off the road before they started chasing them.
I also agree once they made aggressive moves against my family, like barricading me into stopping or smashing my window, I would have feared for both mine and my family's life, I would have removed the threat with extreme prejudice.

On a side note this was NY city so only cops and bad guys would have gun's, had this happen in a more gun friendly state I don't think those kids would have been so brazen.

[magnumwheelman]

BIG... the video I saw looked like the bike that got hit encourage the incident... however, supposedly, the "bike" guys call them selves "stunt" drivers... if the instigator cut 4 ft in front of the SUV at highway speed, as it appeared in the video ( if it were me, he'd have heard some form of cussing ) if the SUV driver's reaction caused the bike rider to stop short on the highway, even if he flipped him off, cussed him out, honked his horn, what ever ( & remember the guy had a baby in the SUV ) I'd not say it was the SUV drivers fault, & under those circumstances, still would not IMO warrant a group beating ( the SUV driver had no way of knowing these guys thought of them selves as "stunt" drivers )

any time you see performance driving on TV anymore ( even in commercials ) you see the tag in small print about professional drivers & closed courses... IMO, they had no right to expect John Q Public to accept them doing "tricks" on the public road, & should have expected any sorts of angry responses...

there is just so much wrong with this incident, & even trying to look at all the possible options, I see it as the bike riders fault

[dmize]

I have been watching this.
First I have been riding for almost 30 years and they aren't "bikers" they are thugs on bikes.
Second I am not about to believe a video that suddenly "starts" when the incident takes place.
Third there was a link that If I can find it back I will post if I find it back, The jackass filming this had 5 other videos posted that he removed because of this one. It is clear that these guys were instigating a load of trouble.

Here is the link oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove

[nolongcolt]

Well, 30 plus totally obnoxious bikers against one guy, total highway harassment, family in the car, no cops in sight. Regardless who "started" it and I think its clear who did, the BIKERS. He should have run all their sorry asses over. This is Road Warrior and Mad Max stuff! If we put up with this there, we will put up with everywhere! Coming to a road near you soon.

[gjn]

NEW YORK (AP) — A motorcyclist was charged Wednesday with reckless driving after prosecutors said he touched off a tense encounter with the driver of an SUV and a throng of other bikers that ended with blood and broken bones on a Manhattan street.

Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, N.J., declined to comment as he was released on $1,500 bail, facing misdemeanor charges that also include unlawful imprisonment. His attorney, H. Benjamin Perez, said his client denied all the allegations.

"He will come back to fight this case and clear his name," he said.

Cruz is the only person charged criminally so far in the Sunday encounter that was caught on a helmet-mounted camera worn by another biker and was posted online anonymously.

The Manhattan district attorney's office decided not immediately to prosecute a second person arrested, Allen Edwards, 42, who surrendered to police on Tuesday. But prosecutors said the investigation continues, and they served notice that they intend to take the case against Cruz to a grand jury — a sign that more serious charges are likely.

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Christopher Cruz appears in criminal court in New York, Wednesday, Oct. 2, 2013. Cruz, 28, of New Je …
Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor overseeing the DA's investigation, said authorities were trying to build the strongest cases possible.

"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," she said.

Prosecutors and police said Cruz was participating in a motorcycle rally speeding along Manhattan's West Side Highway. Cruz cut in front of a black Range Rover and, still staring at its driver, slowed down so much that the rear tire of his motorcycle bumped the front of the SUV, they said. He got off and approached the SUV, prosecutors said.

Video captured the moment as about two dozen riders slowed down, swarming the SUV and blocking its path. Some dismounted and approached the vehicle. Police said some of the bikers then began damaging the Range Rover.

The SUV driver, who police say was frightened for his family in the car, suddenly lurched forward, plowing over another rider before heading north. The cyclists gave chase, pursuing the driver for about 2.5 miles.

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Christopher Cruz, right, appears in criminal court with his lawyer H. Benjamin Perez in New York, We …
The chase ended when the SUV exited the highway and got stuck in street traffic. The video showed one biker smashing the driver's window with his helmet. Police said the group then pulled the man from the SUV and beat him, although that part isn't shown on the video. The police department confirmed that the video is authentic.

The SUV driver, Alexian Lien, 33, was taken to a hospital for stitches for his face. His wife and 2-year-old were not injured. A call to his home wasn't returned Wednesday.

Cruz's attorney said his client wasn't involved in the beating. Cruz has previous arrests in New Jersey, including a theft case in which he pleaded guilty, according to Manhattan prosecutors. Court records concerning the New Jersey case weren't immediately available.

"The bottom line is that my client had nothing to do with what happened to this gentleman" and doesn't know the people who attacked the driver, Perez said. "He never left the location of the accident, and he at no time ever assaulted this man — or his vehicle, for that matter."

The biker who was struck as the SUV fled, Edwin Mieses Jr., remained hospitalized Wednesday. His legs were broken and he has spine injuries that will leave him paralyzed, his wife said. She said her husband, who goes by Jay, is the victim, not the driver of the SUV.

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In this frame grab from video provided by the New York Police Department, motorcyclists ride alongsi …
"Everyone wants to blame the bikers for something this man did," Dayana Mieses said. At least one other biker was injured.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the motorcyclists were participating in a periodic rally in which more than 1,000 bikers head for Times Square. He said police were caught by surprise by the unpermitted event last year but were aware it was taking place this year and "did a fair amount of enforcement" to break up the procession.

There were 15 other arrests and 55 motorcycles confiscated, Kelly said.

[woody]

Oct 2, 2013 14:42:46 GMT -5 bigbores said:

Funny, everyone sees a few minutes of video and then knows exactly what happen, not to defend there actions but I would bet the driver did something that set them off like almost hit one of them, ran someone off the road before they started chasing them.
I also agree once they made aggressive moves against my family, like barricading me into stopping or smashing my window, I would have feared for both mine and my family's life, I would have removed the threat with extreme prejudice.

On a side note this was NY city so only cops and bad guys would have gun's, had this happen in a more gun friendly state I don't think those kids would have been so brazen.

I bet they provoked it from the beginning. I've seen on several occasions when bikers are doing a big run stopping traffic at intersections,cutting people off,etc. just so they can stay together. What gives them the right to do such things? Not the law. Big bike runs are very dAngerous for those reasons and should be illegal. And most the poker runs are for a "cause" so they claim.

[98redline]

I agree with the above poster, those guys aren't bikers, just common thugs. I sincerely hope that the DA is able to round up the rest of the bunch who blocked this guy in and charge them as accessories.

They are damn lucky that the SUV driver was as level headed and concerned for his family as he was. Had they picked the wrong guy it would have been nothing for a 4000+lb range rover to crush a bunch of those idiots against a guardrail or brake check them into the tailgate. Had he decided to turn the tables and go on the offensive, many of those riders would have been going home in body bags.

[savit260]

I've been riding motorcycles since the age of 15. That's 30 years now. The bike that cut in front of the SUV, and slowed down was obviously trying to provoke something. This was an incredibly brazen and boneheaded maneuver on the part of the guy on the bike. The fact he was hit serves him right, and he should be held responsible for the entire incident. As a long time rider, I don't support any of the behavior or actions I saw on that video.

That said, I have no idea what happened before the vid started. Even if the guy in the SUV flipped the guys on the bikes off , the actions of the people on the bikes was over the top and uncalled for. It's unfortunate that one of the bike guys got run over, but being A holes has consequences.

Appears to me to be a stupid stunt gone very wrong.

[tek4260]

It's unfortunate that more of them weren't run over....

[crazycarl]

Were it me, the forensic examiners would discover what appeared to be 265/70-16 General Grabber HS prints on a few of those buttwipes.

I'm a biker, but no kind of thug & that crap is inexcusable.