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Post by magnumwheelman on Jul 11, 2013 11:19:47 GMT -5
That's a good option... I have a couple old Redfield scopes a straight 6X I'm going to leave on a heavy barrel 223 Remy 700, & a 4-12X on another Remy 700... honestly, I've yet to wring out these scopes to see if they are fully repeatable... but right now they are on my "keep" list... maybe have to keep an eye on the on line auction sights... I'd like an old Lyman target spot, but those seem to have a cult following like the Unertl's & cost more than a nice modern scope, so their value exceeds their actual use... I have a pair of Unertl's, they are great to use, but worth too much to replace all my "fun" scopes with...
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Post by curmudgeon on Jul 11, 2013 17:24:45 GMT -5
Yes BUT, toroflow, what are you going to do 5 years after Lasix?  ?. I had it eight years ago, and am now back in Bi-focals. One cannot escape ageing, its in the genes. |
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Post by toroflow on Jul 11, 2013 21:14:28 GMT -5
Yes BUT, toroflow, what are you going to do 5 years after Lasix? ?. I had it eight years ago, and am now back in Bi-focals. One cannot escape ageing, its in the genes. Oh really? I hadn't heard that! Guess I'll have to research it a tad more! This old age and treachery gets us everytime!!!  |
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Post by curmudgeon on Jul 11, 2013 22:54:15 GMT -5
They generally don't tell you that, I found out accidentally. ATB, LEJ
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Post by murphy on Jul 12, 2013 12:08:06 GMT -5
Today I would certainly choose one of these optics. www.vortexoptics.com www.rapidreticle.com www.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/elite-tacticalnightforceoptics.com/Reticals of this nature.www.vortexoptics.com/uploads/sub_rzr_f_5-20x50_ebr2b_mrad.jpgwww.bushnell.com/all-products/rifle-scopes/elite-tactical/dmr-3-5-21x-50mm-g2dmrwww.youtube.com/watch?v=NCUZmH8n8g0 Where to you look?www.libertyoptics.com/index.html www.opticsplanet.com www.eurooptic.com I would also add a first focal plain if you can and a retical of a long range type and you would be good to go without all the guessing out to the full extended range of any of your hunting rifles. That would be without any playing with adjustments just get your range and shoot. The stada lines and subtension lines are included as an asset for you to utilize in ranging not an obstruction in the scope. The new scopes and ranging reticals are designed to make the hunters life a lot easier. All you are required to do is your part and learn how to use them. You are no longer limited to "well I guess this is right" or I wish that was in range of 100 yards. Despite all the hupla and BS you do not have to be a math whiz to use these scopes. You want good and great scopes to replace your old ones with they are here you just have to look for them. These scopes are not just for tactical use they are for practical use as well in all hunting situations. Gone are the days of Redfield of which I have a number. Gone are the days of Burris, Nikon, Leupold they are not keeping up on the latest developments. Gone are the days of having to settle for second best. Gone are the days of being limited to 50 yards with a .22 or 250 yards with your 30-06. These are here today and will only continue to get better. If we demand the best the companies will furnish the best. |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jul 15, 2013 8:54:19 GMT -5
well... I did my 1st wring out review of one of my existing scopes ( because it was a 4-12X, it was one I was hoping to keep ) a vintage Redfield 4-12X AO Plex scope that came on my 17 Remington Remy 700, that I rebarrel / rechambered in 17 Fireball... since I don't plan on shooting the lil 17 much over 300 yards, I think it's a keeper, ( for now ) even though it lacks a lot of features the newer scopes have, it scored a perfect on the box test, without having to over correct & bring it back, to allow for backlash... however there are no audible or felt clicks on the adjustments, the edges of the lenses fade a bit at higher magnification, & the turrets are not adjustable to zero after the rifle is sighted in... anyway, I'm betting I have others more in need of replacement, so I'll look for a way to mark the turrets, so I can bring it back to zero after any adjustments needed for distance or wind... suggestions next scope to get wrung out will be a newer Burris 3-9X on my custom fast twist 22 Hornet, then another Vintage Redfield 6X on a heavy barrel Remy 700 in 223... the Vortex I ordered, I think I'll try on my 22-250 |
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Post by bradshaw on Jul 15, 2013 9:56:27 GMT -5
Without going into a comparison of tough hunting scopes, I must report the Leupold Var-X III an all-time honest glass, particularly when ordered or retrofit with Leupold's optional German #4 reticle. The German #4 is notable for three fat bars----two from 3 and 9 o'clock, one from 6 o'clock----which throw the eye to the center of the crosshair. The eye tends to wander on a regular crosshair, or even Duplex, reticle. The #4 centers the eye. A red dot pulls the eye to center. The #4 throws the eye to center. The German #4 is fast in the woods and definite in low light. It is for hunting, not for bench rest shooting. Borrowed a rifle from a friend on a hunt. It was equipped with a Schmidt & Bender 2.5-10x56mm. Fabulous glass. Equipped with illuminated reticle. My opportunity came late dusk at last legal light. Of course the battery was dead. The German #4 bars remained perfectly visible and I was able to squeeze my shot.
Similar end-of-day opportunities have been saved with my Leupolds with the German #4 reticle, none of which have the battery illumination.
David Bradshaw
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Post by bradshaw on Jul 16, 2013 13:32:18 GMT -5
Magnumwheelman.... Slowed down to read again your call for scope suggestions for range shooting 4o to 300 yards. The vast array of glass available these days grossly exceeds the number of scopes with which I have experience. I can suggest a few considerations. Most scopes, especially variables with power 10x and above, should have adjustment to eliminate parallax. An example of a scope that might satisfy your requirements, the Nikon Monarch 5.5x-16.5x44mm Adjustable Objective. A clear glass. Repeatable, audible clicks. The AO allows for parallax-free sighting from close to infinity. Had the scope on a Ruger 77/22 VBZ, Ruger's most accurate .22 LR, and was able to watch bullets sail to the 100 yard target, actually use the bullet as a wind gauge! THAT is an educational visual sensation. Proved to me an accurate .22 deserves precise glass.
The Weaver T-series scopes featured click adjustments of tight repeatability, which made them popular in NRA rifle silhouette. Forced the rest of the industry to wake up. I have found excellent repeatability with the B&L/Bushnell 3200 2-6x handgun scope, and a couple of 3200 series rifle scopes.
One needn't mount a Nightforce or Schmidt & Bender to have backlash-free adjustments, but you want to do your research.
Today, the side mounted parallax adjustment has taken over. The old AO----Adjustable Objective----is simpler.
David Bradshaw
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jul 16, 2013 13:50:16 GMT -5
thanks for the suggestions... I have a couple of Nikons on my list...
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 16, 2013 15:04:46 GMT -5
300 yards is kind of close up for putting up with a rifle.. Have you considered a good handgun? Year ago an old High Power Rifle shooter told me that anything beyond 16X was of questionable value. These HP shooters shot out to 600 yards with iron sights but used scopes at the any rifle any sight matches that were fired at 600 and 1000 yards. FWIW These TV dipictions of long range shooting through a scope paint an unrealistic picture. Mirage is a muther at 100 yards on a hot summer day. Multiply that range by 6 or 10 and you need the best glass you can get you hands on. My recomendation? Find a F class match and go see what the winners have mounted on their rifles... |
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Post by ohnomrbillk on Jul 17, 2013 7:24:38 GMT -5
Eye corrective surgery has a few new options on the horizon my ophthalmologist buddy told me about.
There is a new implantable device that contains a few lenses. After being implanted they use a tremendously strong magnet to adjust the lenses....focusing for each individual eye.
When your eyes change down the road, you just adjust it again.
Same insertion as cataract surgery, it can keep your existing lens, and is 100 percent reversible.
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?. I had it eight years ago, and am now back in Bi-focals. One cannot escape ageing, its in the genes.
