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Post by the priest on Jul 23, 2009 19:21:52 GMT -5
Sound's like Thor's Hammer can shoot,.....
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hoss
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Post by hoss on Jul 23, 2009 22:15:58 GMT -5
Heh heh... yep. I am content. I plan to tweak the load a little, up and down a half a grain or so... but I know that this 'un is capable even if I ain't! I'm guessing a 400 grainer at 1200+ should stop most anything within a hundred yards....
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Post by Markbo on Jul 26, 2009 12:45:27 GMT -5
So that Ballistic Supply ammo works OK, huh? ;D
....I'm guessing a 400 grainer at 1200+ should stop most anything within a hundred yards....
Anything on this continent anyways.
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Post by rep1954 on Jul 26, 2009 13:02:26 GMT -5
I sure envy you guys who can shoot those big blasters. My poor old body just wont hold up to it anymore, physically and mentally. Looks fun thou now with all the big stuff in revolvers instead of just single shots.
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Post by Markbo on Jul 26, 2009 13:43:16 GMT -5
Rep, just for the record... for whatever reason I am not bothered much by recoil. In fact I love it... I just enjoy it. BUT... the Ballistic Suppyl 500gr load in .500 S&W remains the only handgun ammo that I have ever shot that physically bruised my hand.
I mean about 5 shots and I had to quit only to find several hours later the fleshy part of my palm had gotten quite colorful! It was sore for a week or more. That is not my idea of fun.
That being said I have shot similarly powered rounds in better grips like the Ruger plowhandle & Bisley and the BFR without anything close to that discomfort. Proper grips make all the difference in the world. That is one reason I am limiting my S&W magnums to the .460 which is a totally different recoil animal than the .500.
Huge noise and muzzle blast, but lighter bullets - even at way high velocities - just mean less painful recoil.
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Post by rep1954 on Jul 26, 2009 18:23:09 GMT -5
When Cor-Bon came out with thier big heavy load for the 500 I shot a couple and then shot another and got some skin folded over in the fleshy part of my hand during recoil and put a big knot in it for about 6 weeks. And you are right about the 460 a much nicer gun to shoot at least with the lighter weight bullets, I've only shot it with Hornady's light rubber tipped load. load. Nowadays 44 mags are tops for me.
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Post by hoss on Jul 26, 2009 20:03:52 GMT -5
I have a theory... I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but I think the 500 has been overloaded a tad. Initial 44 mag loads were high pressure crazy, as were the early 357 loads; once folks began to tinker they realized that a 250 grain LSWC at 1400 feet per left the same size hole as the 1200 feet per version... 375 grain LSWCs out of the 4" S&W X frame 500 are controllable at 1000-1200 feet per. You can plink with 'em in DA. The same cannot be said of the hunting level CorBon, Buffalo Bore, and Ballistic Supply tyranno loads. Our own curmudgeon here told me that practicing with lower velocity loads didn't really translate to controlling and shooting the earth stompers well. I figure he's got the experience to know, and I respect what he and so many others have taken the arrows to figure out... so I load to 1100-1200 feet per... and I stick with slugs in the 375-440 grain range out of the revolvers. (And occasionally I shoot a 500 or 650 or 700 grainer to remind myself why!) I can handle 25+ rounds of 400 grainers at 1200 out of the BFR, and I haven't loaded enough of the 1050-1150 fps 375s out of the S&W to find my limit... and I wouldn't feel poorly armed facing a predator with either load at contact range. If I'm gonna rely on it, I have to be able to hit with it. I can't do that if I send a constant "this is gonna hurt" message to my nervous system. I think the smiths high bore axis and round butt really help it get a run at the web of your hand, and the rubber grips are inclined to cling and drag your mitt meat with 'em when they rotate. I got through 5 rounds of the 500 grainers in the Smith ONCE... and dealt with the palm of my hand lighting up like a christmas tree for days after. The force transferred in the BFR wasn't as bad, but the gun still gets up in your face in a hurry. The same loads through the H&R rifle (sans recoil pad) were equally brutal... my nephew and I had serious bruises in the shape and size of the crescent steel buttplate for a while. Its kinda like hotrodding a big block... Some fellas have to have the fastest quarter miler. I just want controlled speed and power... and the ability to corner really well.
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