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Post by buckheart on Apr 13, 2013 8:53:04 GMT -5
Assemblymen Steve McLaughlin
If you haven't seen this yet watch and see one of the outcomes of the UnSAFE Act. This is a major league screw up and a still developing story. Due process? HIPAA? 4th Amendment? Not with the unSAFE Act apparently. The VA was completely correct when they said they would not comply with this law.
I find the State Police explanation of having the "wrong guy" highly suspect. However, they did have the wrong guy in one sense because he smartly got a lawyer to fight this and expose what's happened. Who's the right guy then state police? If you had the wrong one here what other guy were you seeking that took anti-anxiety meds so you could seize his guns without any concern for his rights? Have you found him? Have you seized his guns?
After this story broke we are now hearing about a clandestine task force within the state police and dept. of criminal justice services that are searching medical records under the unSAFE Act. This has not been publicly confirmed though and at this point it is anonymous sources only so we'll see how this develops.
How many times did I say this isn't about guns, it's about rights? How many times did I say we are ground zero for the progessive gun purge across the nation? How many times did I say this law will cause people to avoid seeking treatment for mental health?
Where is the press on this? If this was a Republican it would headline news across the country.
12/21/12...Fred Dicker show, Andrew Cuomo: "Well you could say confiscation is an option."
12/11/11 Steven Cohen, Cuomo's secretary quoted as saying about the administration, "We operate on two speeds here: Get along and kill." He wasn't talking about the unSAFE Act and was talking about their method of operation but it clearly shows their mindset. Let's just say they don't like to be questioned or criticized....which of course means they don't like me very much.
Many questions remain to be answered here but when I'm back in Albany Monday we will be asking for answers. I don't expect they will be forthcoming since OGS can't even give me a detailed breakdown of their $60,000 estimate to repair the capital lawn but we will be asking and demanding answers. I'm sure they're spending the weekend covering their tracks and will now begin calling everyone "extremists" for talking about this. They should look in the mirror when saying that. State police confiscate wrong man’s guns, blame county clerk video.foxnews.com
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Post by buckheart on Apr 27, 2013 16:31:48 GMT -5
THANK YOU TROOPERS!!!!!
BREAKING: Growing number of NY State Troopers in our area in Troop A are signing the "opt-out" form prohibiting their PBA union dues from being used for political purposes (PAC fund of PBA of NY State Troopers).
Approaching HALF of A Troop rank & file has either signed or committed to signing the "opt-out" form.
Also, over 90% of the WNY sector of T-Troop (Thruway: Ripley to Rochester) has signed or say they will sign the form.
Again: most rank and file troopers want the PBA to issue a statement opposing NY SAFE as unconstitutional and therefore as an illegal law.
So far, union big shots have refused to do so, and the union's own membership is running out of patience.
Perhaps a look at the PBA political contributions to Andrew Cuomo may offer some insight. $49,500 from 2006-2010.
Sources say rank and file opposition to union leadership's tone-deafness is spreading "like wildfire" throughout State Police barracks throughout NY State.
If our Drama Queen governor's own police force opposes the law, that will be HUGE.
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Post by Mountaineer on Apr 30, 2013 9:49:27 GMT -5
Buckheart:
Was listening to a caller from upstate New York on a talk radio show I listen to during the morning drive time. He was talking (with frustration) about the state requirement for a permit to own a handgun (pistol, he said). He said he had applied for the required permit, but there was an 18-month backlog on approvals, he thought owing to the recent surge in firearms purchases nationally. So he continues to wait.
The thing he said that I had never heard before is that it is a violation of the law for him to even touch a pistol without a state permit. For instance, he said, he is not permitted to handle or shoot another owner's handgun at a range, unless he is state approved to do so. I suppose I could check that out, but I thought I'd ask you. Is that right? If it is, it seems to me to be an unconstitutional burden to a law abiding New Yorker.
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Post by buckheart on May 1, 2013 6:56:50 GMT -5
As far as I know that restriction is correct. If I go into a gun store where they don't know me the guy behind the counter will always ask to see my permit before he takes a pistol out of the case for me to handle. That also of course applies doubly to shooting at a range. You never know who is looking over your shoulder when you are at a shooting range. One of the reasons I don't belong to a shooting club or shoot at a public range. Way too many "unconstitutional burdens" in NY. I am sure you heard about the mayor of NYC wanting to legislate the size of a soft drink you can have.
The permit process in NY is in itself burden some. It took me about a year to get mine and that was before the back log. Now, they are so backed up that 18 months the guy on the radio was talking about sounds about right. 2 months ago I picked up a Sig M11-1a to try and beat the coming restriction on 10 round mags(this has since been set back and now you can buy 10 rounders, but only load 7). When I went to the county clerks office to pick up the coupon to purchase they had to dig through a folder about 6 inches thick to find my coupon and amendment to permit. I commented, man you guys must be busy with the size of that coupon folder, and the clerk says, yaa and that folder is just the first half of the alphabet. Gun sales have been through the roof. Ammo shortages are still in full swing here, same for reloading stuff. My reloading supplier will only sell 100 primers at a time. 22 ammo is non existent. Haven't seen any in months. Doesn't affect me much though as after the last shortage I took heed and over time developed a small stock pile.
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Post by Ranger499 on May 2, 2013 1:31:05 GMT -5
You guys keep up the good fight!
We are trying to recall many who voted for our new restrictions here in Colorado and I think we'll get a few and send a message. Colorado is about 1/3 Rep, 1/3 Dem, and 1/3 Independent, and the swing vote is always the I's. We've been watching the D's ( who have the Senate, the House, and the Gov) shove their agenda down Colorado's throat. They didn't even allow the Sheriff's to comment (and no public comment) on many committee votes on our new gun laws. Folks are not happy about it. I'm hoping we clean them out.
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Post by buckheart on May 2, 2013 4:55:13 GMT -5
That seems to be the way the democrats do things. They don't go through the proper procedures for getting things they want passed put through. The safe act was passed under the "act of necessity" clause which is an option formulated for emergency circumstances. To prevent imminent danger to the population. No public comment was allowed on this bill.
Correct, the politicians do need to get the message. We need to do a clean sweep in the coming election. To that end here is who voted to up hold your constitutional rights an who voted to infringe on your constitutional rights. the ones that do not understand four simple words --- SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED--- need to find other means of employment.
NY Secure Firearms and Ammunition Enforcement (SAFE) Act of 2013 (S2230 Klein / A2388 Silver) SENATE COMMITTEE VOTE: - Rules - Jan 14, 2013
VOTING TO INFRINGE YOUR GUN RIGHTS - Ayes (18): Skelos, Libous, Carlucci, Flanagan, Fuschillo, LaValle, Marcellino, Valesky, Stewart-Cousins, Breslin, Dilan, Hassell-Thompson, Krueger, Montgomery, Parker, Perkins, Espaillat, Gianaris; Ayes W/R (1): Hannon
VOTING TO PROTECT YOUR GUN RIGHTS - Nays (6): Bonacic, Farley, Larkin, Maziarz, Nozzolio, Seward
SENATE FLOOR VOTE: - Jan 14. 2013 Ayes (43) Nays (18) Excused (1)
VOTING TO INFRINGE YOUR GUN RIGHTS - Ayes: Adams, Addabbo, Avella, Boyle, Breslin, Carlucci, Diaz, Dilan, Espaillat, Felder, Flanagan, Fuschillo, Gianaris, Gipson, Golden, Grisanti, Hannon, Hassell-Thompson, Hoylman, Kennedy, Klein, Krueger, Lanza, Latimer, LaValle, Marcellino, Martins, Montgomery, O'Brien, Parker, Peralta, Perkins, Rivera, Sampson, Sanders, Savino, Serrano, Skelos, Smith, Squadron, Stavisky, Stewart-Cousins, Valesky Ayes: 43; (Democrat:32 Republican:11)
VOTING TO PROTECT YOUR GUN RIGHTS - Nays: Ball, Bonacic, DeFrancisco, Farley, Gallivan, Griffo, Larkin, Libous, Little, Marchione, Maziarz, Nozzolio, O'Mara, Ranzenhofer, Ritchie, Robach, Seward, Young Nays: 18; (Democrat:0 Republican:18) Excused: Zeldin
ASSEMBLY FLOOR VOTE: - Jan 15, 2013 Ayes (104) Nays (43) Excused (3)
VOTING TO INFRINGE YOUR GUN RIGHTS - Ayes: Abbate, Abinanti, Arroyo, Aubry, Barrett, Barron, Benedetto, Boyland, Braunstein, Brennan, Bronson, Brook-Krasny, Buchwald, Cahill, Camara, Castro, Clark, Colton, Cook, Curran, Cusick, Cymbrowitz, DenDekker, Dinowitz, Englebright, Espinal, Fahy, Farrell, Galef, Gantt, Gibson, Gjonaj, Glick, Goldfeder, Gottfried, Heastie, Hennessey, Hevesi, Hikind, Hooper, Jacobs, Jaffee, Kavanagh, Kellner, Kim, Lavine, Lentol, Lifton, Vito Lopez, Losquadro, Lupinacci, Magnarelli, Maisel, Malliotakis, Markey, Mayer, McDonald, McDonough, McKevitt, Miller, Millman, Morelle, Mosley, Moya, Nolan, O'Donnell, Ortiz, Otis, Paulin, Peoples-Stokes, Perry, Pretlow, Quart, Ra, Ramos, Roberts, Robinson, Rodriguez, Rosa, Rosenthal, Rozic, Russell, Ryan, Santabarbara, Scarborough, Schimel, Sepulveda, Silver, Simanowitz, Simotas, Skartados, Solages, Steck, Stevenson, Stirpe, Sweeney, Thiele, Titone, Titus, Weinstein, Weisenberg, Weprin, Wright, Zebrowski Ayes: 104; (Democrat:96 Republican:7 Independent:1)
VOTING TO PROTECT YOUR GUN RIGHTS - Nays: Barclay, Blankenbush, Borelli, Brindisi, Butler, Ceretto, Corwin, Crouch, DiPietro, Duprey, Finch, Friend, Gabryszak, Garbarino, Giglio, Goodell, Graf, Gunther, Hawley, Johns, Jordan, Katz, Kearns, Kolb, Lalor, Peter Lopez, Lupardo, Magee, McLaughlin, Montesano, Nojay, Oaks, Palmesano, Rabbitt, Raia, Reilich, Saladino, Schimminger, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, Tenney, Walter Nays: 43; (Democrat:8 Republican:35 Independent:0) Excused: Crespo, Fitzpatrick, Rivera
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Post by buckheart on May 4, 2013 5:38:45 GMT -5
Haven't done a person to person sale since this mess started. I thought the fee was specified to be no higher that $10??
Was at a LGS yesterday and one of the guys behind the counter said that the owner may stop selling ammo after the NICS checks kick in for ammo sales. I suggested to him that he should let his boss know that it would be like me going to the lumber yard for a load of 2 x 4s and not being able to get nails. I would have to start shopping for materials else where!
Spoke to my other favorite gun store and told him , well I have to ask a stupid question, got any 22RF. He said he gets very little in and mostly keeps what he gets to sell with new rifle purchases.
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