hammer
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Post by hammer on Jul 11, 2009 15:45:08 GMT -5
How much more would you give for a current production NIB S&W 44 Magnum with all its enhancements over a similar condition S&W 44 Magnum of 1950's vintage ?
How much would fifty plus years of design evolution with "new & improved" be worth to you ?
You cannot covet it for collector's value but must use it as your everyday "go to" gun -- just like Elmer.
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rigby
.327 Meteor
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Post by rigby on Jul 11, 2009 16:08:12 GMT -5
O, is that an acceptable answer? In fact I would go the other way and pay a premium for the vintage gun. The vintage gun is much smoother and if treated with the right loads would be fine. That is the only area where I can see any advancement is in strength. Plus my confidence would be much greater in the vintage gun w/o the lock and thats half the battle.
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pd
.240 Incinerator
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Post by pd on Jul 11, 2009 16:37:40 GMT -5
I have to vote with rigby on this one. Most of my Smiths are late 1970s or earlier, and I wouldn't trade two for one.
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Post by smirker on Jul 11, 2009 17:55:55 GMT -5
I also agree.The old guns are much nicer and if they were taken care of the should have plenty of service left in them.Plus you can't trust that your new blue gun is blue(blackened stainless).
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Len
.30 Stingray
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Post by Len on Jul 11, 2009 19:20:21 GMT -5
Vintage Smiths from first hand experience! (disappointments) Michael Blain's web site is to post a video of lock failure on a new Smith.
Len
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 12, 2009 12:21:40 GMT -5
I would pay between 25-50 more for the older Smith without the lock for all of the reasons mentioned thus far
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Post by Gary @ R&G on Jul 12, 2009 19:44:45 GMT -5
For a 50's vintage?? I would love to add $25-$50 but your probably looking at adding minimum $250 -$500 and possibly more.
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 13, 2009 12:56:38 GMT -5
You're probably right Gary, but some of the shops I visit weekly can't get a 250-500 mark up on the old smiths around here, everybody wants the latest "tactical tupperware" and not so much with the wheelguns, pre-lock smiths around here actually go for less than the lock guns purely because they're used
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Madbo
.30 Stingray
Barranti Leather Co HS
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Post by Madbo on Jul 13, 2009 14:15:22 GMT -5
YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE A PREMIUM FOR A 50'S 5-SCREW .44 MAGNUM. EXPECT TO SPEND 2 G'S ON ONE IF YOUR LOOK'IN. I HAVE AND I WILL STAKE MY LIFE ON THESE TWO. MB
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Post by maxcactus on Jul 13, 2009 19:43:37 GMT -5
.... Plus you can't trust that your new blue gun is blue(blackened stainless). Just curious as to why that is an issue? To my way of thinking, a blackened stainless gun is the best of both worlds. Do you prefer some characteristic of chrome-moly steel over stainless? I am aware that some stainless alloys have had troubles in the past, but most stainless S&Ws seem quite good in terms of strength, rust-resistance, galling, etc. Or is the issue more along the line finishing/polishing? Or something else altogether? Max.
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Post by Frank V on Jul 13, 2009 21:09:07 GMT -5
Original question! 0!
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Post by sixshot on Jul 13, 2009 21:31:57 GMT -5
MB, you sure have some nice sixguns, how could anyone prefer a new one to those 2 you've shown, wow! Shot a small 6 pt whitetail once at Brownwood, Texas with a 6" 29-2, sure wish I had it back , could we possibly play a little poker for that top one ;D.......... I'll deal! Dick
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Post by zeus on Jul 13, 2009 22:50:15 GMT -5
MB, you sure have some nice sixguns, how could anyone prefer a new one to those 2 you've shown, wow! Shot a small 6 pt whitetail once at Brownwood, Texas with a 6" 29-2, sure wish I had it back , could we possibly play a little poker for that top one ;D.......... I'll deal! Dick Once again, you taunt me with the pictures of more beautiful sixguns MB..... While you and sixshot are duking it out at the card table, I'm running out the back door with the sixgun Too bad I don't run that fast anymore, I have a feeling I couldn't get out of range of the two of you quick enough unless 2dogs is waiting out back with the truck. I can't imagine why anyone would pay more for a current model rather than having one like in MB's picture myself to answer the original question. I wouldn't!!
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fltbed
.240 Incinerator
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Post by fltbed on Jul 22, 2009 9:49:58 GMT -5
For a 50's vintage?? I would love to add $25-$50 but your probably looking at adding minimum $250 -$500 and possibly more. Boy ain’t that the truth! I am also partial to the late 80’s to mid 90’s stainless models as well. Sadly these are selling for as much as a new model around here. Jeff
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 22, 2009 10:40:40 GMT -5
Outside of the lock I LIKE the current production S&W... Heck, I don't have thousands of dollars to lay out for 50s and earler production S&W revolvers.... Those of us who survived the S&W production of the 60s, 70s and 80s know how bad their manufacturing process got... The first guns that came out of the new CNC processes were such a breath of fresh air.... And then came the cursed lock... Of which I have absolutely no bad experiences but simple logic tells us that when you complicate a machine the risk for failure increases...
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