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Post by AxeHandle on Jun 15, 2012 10:39:50 GMT -5
Have we fully fleshed out the subtle difference in a #5 and a Ruger Bisley? Yes, I know the TLA is REALLY short, John Gallagher tells a tale about how that happened, but.... To me the standard #5 Copy looks really Ruger Bisleyish from accross the room. Personally I find the Ruger Bisley a little more comfortable than the #5 grip frame as recoil increases.. Shot my Clements #5 and my Gallagher Bisley side by side. No doubt in my mind, the Bisley is better..
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Post by subsonic on Jun 15, 2012 12:21:44 GMT -5
Lee Martin: My advice Frank....bring your own ideas to the forum. Citing a bunch of Jim's theories won't get you far here. I understand. I just wanted to formulate a conclusion in my mind, but to do so all objections needed to be answered. And Jim provided some of those objections. But if I bring an idea to the board, will I continue to be hounded with, "Jim, is that you?" Jim and I probably have our differences. I can tell by some of his responses. But it never, ever gets personal or nasty. I just don't understand that part of it between you guys and him. But then again I don't run gun business or work for a publisher either. I wouldn't hitch my wagon to a guy that claims that he can look at a primer and tell if it is a magnum or a standard primer simply by the color.. This picture proves that both standard and magnum primers of the same brand are the same color Yet he continued to argue that they were different even after this pictures was posted. Proving that he didn't know what he was talking about Posting pictures of groups on the internet doesn't make one a ballistics expert as he has proven over and over JWP, seriously. Ever weigh one? If you don't want to keep drawing attention to him, stop.
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Post by subsonic on Jun 15, 2012 12:27:35 GMT -5
If y'all are going to talk about the guy this much, you probably should let him back on the forum to defend himself....
I still don't know why this horse is continuing to be beaten. It's dead.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jun 15, 2012 12:35:08 GMT -5
How about this minor reshapping that Reeder does to the Bisley grip frame? People who own Reeder guns speak very highly of the modification. Seems like he calls it his "Gunfighter Grip." I've traded for a pair of 500Ls, a 475L, and a 500 Max that have the modification. IMHO... Not bad...
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Post by dmize on Jun 15, 2012 12:38:08 GMT -5
Has anyone ever shot an authentic Colt Bisley? Really strange to look at but Im curious as to how they feel.
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Post by whitworth on Jun 15, 2012 13:03:06 GMT -5
edk While I do not dispute the Ruger Bisley's superior recoil handling ability(relative to plowhandle) Bisley was designed for one-handed shooting wimpy loads. JH's modification is good. The best for the recoilers are rubber grips. Why subsonic? Because of statements like this, borrowed directly from the bfrshooter playbook. This thread, IMO, was never designed to discuss the pros and cons of the various grip frames, and was doomed from the outset to deviate down this trecherous path of verbal combat.......
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Post by jwp475 on Jun 15, 2012 13:14:45 GMT -5
If y'all are going to talk about the guy this much, you probably should let him back on the forum to defend himself.... I still don't know why this horse is continuing to be beaten. It's dead. He has defended himself adnausm even after being proven wrong. His contention on the primers were that he could look at them and tell the differrence by color and that is simply incorrect Here is a another case in point where he claimed that the FA-83's have a transfer bar. forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2911043/m/355103176?r=763101276#763101276 Guy's like you and Frank cling to what he posts as if it were gospel and refuse to see that he provably wrong as much if more than he is correct Bad info and those that post need to be combated at ever turn TRUTH AND FACTS ARE ALL THAT MATTER
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Post by subsonic on Jun 15, 2012 13:17:22 GMT -5
I am dissappointed in this thread and some of the guys in it. As far as I can see, you guys were reading more into Frank's text than he was actually typing.
I personally find Jim to be the kind of fellow who would give the shirt off of his back to someone that needed it. While he may be wrong on some accounts (even I don't agree with him all the time) and stubborn on all accounts, he has helped more people than I can count, including me.
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Post by whitworth on Jun 15, 2012 13:30:34 GMT -5
I am dissappointed in this thread and some of the guys in it. As far as I can see, you guys were reading more into Frank's text than he was actually typing. I personally find Jim to be the kind of fellow who would give the shirt off of his back to someone that needed it. While he may be wrong on some accounts (even I don't agree with him all the time) and stubborn on all accounts, he has helped more people than I can count, including me. I have low expectations of mankind, therefore I rarely get disappointed anymore. I have seen too much of what man is capable of. But, that is neither here nor there. That said, I firmly believe that this thread wasn't started with the intent of gathering information, which was readily apparent as soon as bfrshooter was quoted verbatim. Having said that, I know Jim better than any of his internet pals and can probably judge him better than any of you. This cannot be disputed. He is generous and he does have a depth of knowledge, but I find that his unwillingness to accept other opinions as equally viable, more than a bit offputting. You're right though, we shouldn't even be going down this road.
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Post by paulg on Jun 15, 2012 13:36:32 GMT -5
What's the chances of getting a bisley grip frame fitted to my Charter Bulldog? ;D
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Post by Lee Martin on Jun 15, 2012 13:37:33 GMT -5
You're right though, we shouldn't even be going down this road. I couldn't agree more Whit. That's why I'm going to lock this thread. If folks want to start one that focuses on the Bisley gripframe itself as opposed to Jim, I'm fine with that. This forum hasn't had many discussions like this over the years. I plan to keep it that way. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time"
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