jb500
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Looking for 500 jrh info
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Post by jb500 on Nov 29, 2023 21:38:32 GMT -5
Which is a better choice, a tubular red dot scope (0 magnification) such as an Aimpoint 9000SC, or a reflex red dot such as a Trijicon RMR2 with settings for night vision. Aimpoint discontinued the night vision version, called the 9000sc-nv, which I wish they hadn't. I wonder why the stopped making it. Thanks!!!
Gun it will go on is a BFR 500 JRH 5.5 inch octagon barrel.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 29, 2023 21:48:50 GMT -5
I have literally a dozen different reflex sights… probably twice what I have of tube sights ( I really want to like them) but, the only good thing I can say about them, is they are smaller and lighter… your results may vary, but I shoot a tube style sight, both faster, and more accurately than I can shoot a reflex sight
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jb500
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Looking for 500 jrh info
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Post by jb500 on Nov 29, 2023 21:51:13 GMT -5
What tube sights do you have, magnum wheelman?
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Post by contender on Nov 29, 2023 23:07:15 GMT -5
For hunting guns,, I prefer the tube types,, especially the UltraDot line. For faster shooting,, I like the reflex types.
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jb500
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Looking for 500 jrh info
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Post by jb500 on Nov 30, 2023 4:54:00 GMT -5
Contender, what do you think about a Trijicon RMR 2nd get for a gun used on the hip when hunting, for bear protection? For example, I am a right handed shooter, carrying a shotgun while bird hunting in the forest, and have a BFR 500 JRH 5.5 inch octagon barrel on left hip reaching across to draw it. would that combo work for bear defense?
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Post by bigbore5 on Nov 30, 2023 5:14:11 GMT -5
Either the JRH or the Linebaugh are good bear medicine. But large heavy guns.
If you already have it, then I understand, but as for my choice when I may encounter a large bear, whether black or grizzly, I carry an iron sights 45 Colt 4-5/8" Blackhawk because it's light and compact. Loaded big and heavy,but carried small and light. I'm wanting a SW 329 to carry while outside working. Smaller and lighter,but still a big thumper.
Most people I know who live and work around large bear or dangerous animals tend to pack smaller, lighter guns in big conventional cartridges. 41mag,44,45. Hunting is different. Then you are taking the fight to them and you really want the one shot knock out.
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Post by contender on Nov 30, 2023 6:02:17 GMT -5
For woods carry with the primary purpose of bear protection, I'd opt for open sights. Dots of both types can be harder to find unless your grip is absolutely correct & alignment is right.
In a stressed, tense,, and fast action situation, you will not likely even look at the sights or a dot.
Case in point; A GOOD friend,, a USPSA competitor, and a State Highway Patrolman was suddenly confronted by a guy with a Desert Eagle .44 mag on July 3rd. He was shot in the chest from just a few feet away. He told me he didn't have time to think, but instead he reacted, and drew (quickly) and started firing the moment he cleared his holster. He fired 6 rounds,, never looking at his sights. His vest saved his life,, but the thug was hit 5 times. He had open sights,, but he never saw them.
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Post by CraigC on Nov 30, 2023 8:22:13 GMT -5
I probably have two dozen or more red dots and prefer a tube. For me they are easier to find the dot but that's probably a training issue. I like the UltraDot on a revolver and a T1 clone for everything else.
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Post by x101airborne on Nov 30, 2023 8:28:05 GMT -5
Tube sights resist sun wash out. When the sun is directly behind or in front of your reflex sight it can cause a reflection that momentarily hides the dot. The tube type sights rarely if ever have this problem. I have reflex sights on my pistols and a Trijicon Hunter on my CETME. I have made 300 yard shots on black hogs with the hunter. Just put the dot above the hogs shoulders and let rip. For belt carry I would go reflex. Makes holster options a little easier.
For any of you using a gas ejection system rifle, dont ever ever ever fire it from the drivers seat of your truck. Took me three tries to hit a running coyote at 300 yards and when I looked back, I had three beautiful spiderwebs right in my line of sight in my windshield. That was a 500 dollar mistake.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 30, 2023 9:59:14 GMT -5
yep, at least it looks like I'm in good company in not being able to always find the dot instantly on a reflex sight... when I hold up a tube, I always at least see the dot without any adjustment on my part... I would guess. if I was a 1 gun & 1 sight type of guy, I could train to do that with a reflex, but with the tubes I always can at least see the dot, no matter what gun it's mounted to... they work equally well on a semi or a revolver... as far as tube sights go... I have a couple ( now quite old ) Tasco Pro Points, back from when they were the best in the market... I have a couple Ultra Dot models, & the newest were the Leopold's that are mounted on my BFR's don't overlook something more mechanical... I love these Williams fire sights... ( but they did take some custom work on the rear revolver sight base ) these old Tasco's all still work great, & often better than newly introduced models... Looks like I 1st put an Ultra Dot on my 1st BFR, before replacing it with the Leopold's
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Post by squigz on Nov 30, 2023 10:24:14 GMT -5
I personally prefer a tube sight on my hunting revolvers, my 5.5" BFR 500JRH has a Ultradot 30 on it. I've tried reflex styles and sometimes it takes me awhile to acquire the dot comfortably.
I've recently got a enclosed red dot that I'm going to try out and see if that fills the gap between a tube and a reflex.
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Post by Big Bore on Nov 30, 2023 10:50:52 GMT -5
I like reflex style best simply because they have a smaller footprint. But I use both.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 30, 2023 13:43:51 GMT -5
just a quick add on, note the distance between the rings on my Ultra Dot, compared to the Leopold... the difference allowed me to trim the factory mount, greatly reducing the perceived bulk... I edited that last picture in my previous post so they are the same gun, so the comparison is easier
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Post by harold89 on Nov 30, 2023 14:10:07 GMT -5
I prefer the smaller footprint of the reflex style. The only issue I have had is with models with auto brightness. Not a good thing.
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Post by blackmamba on Dec 1, 2023 17:35:35 GMT -5
I prefer the UltraDots over scopes or reflex sights. They are only 4-5 oz., so shoot offhand much better than scopes, and the tube seems to help acquire the dot much faster than reflex sights, for me. Plus they stand up to any amount of recoil and keep working.
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