jeffh
.375 Atomic
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Post by jeffh on Aug 4, 2023 5:35:37 GMT -5
Now, THAT is cool!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Aug 4, 2023 6:42:56 GMT -5
I do not have one to try out, so Im just asking questions. How do these work when adjusted left or right to accommodate off center front sights? CHANGING THE REAR SIGHT BLADE WILL NOT IMPACT THE FRONT BLADE. Does the set screw easily gall the aluminum Ruger sight body? THE SCREW IS STEEL AND RONNIE HAS TORTURE TESTED THESE BLADES FOR STRENGTH SO IF YOU GO GORILLA ON THAT SCREW YOU COULD PROBABLY INJURE THE ALUMINUM. Will the blade stay in place without the set screw? THE SET SCREW IS A FAILSAFE SINCE MANY GUYS SHOOT SOME PRETTY HEAVY LOADS. I GET THE IMPRESSION THE SET SCREW OFFENDS YOU BUT IF YOU FOCUS ON THE FRONT SIGHT LIKE YOU SHOULD IT DISAPPEARS. Are you continuing to develop the design, so a 2nd generation might be expected once more bugs are worked out through buyer feedback? THIS UNIT IS WELL BUGGED OUT AND FEATURES MANY SUBTLE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS. FOR EXAMPLE, EVERY SURFACE FALLS AWAY FROM THE SURFACE OF THE REAR BLADE ITSELF NOT ONLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE SLEEK DESIGN BUT THE LACK OF THE PRESENCE OF ANY SURFACE TO REFLECT LIGHT ALLOWS A MUCH CLEANER SIGHT PICTURE. Are any of the reviewers pulling their Bowen sights, and swapping back to a Ruger with the insert? I WILL LET THE REVIEWERS SPEAK TO THAT.
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Post by crash86 on Aug 4, 2023 10:28:06 GMT -5
Will they work on OM sights? Yes. Except I’m thinking the OM Flattop might require its own variation. OK Im looking here at a Nw model FT 44 special, and an OM FT 44 mag. They look the same, both micro sights. The only exception is visually, the windage screw is smaller on the OM FT, Ive not taken them apart and put any measuring devices on them, but it looks to me if, RW 2 Dogs Flat Top Rear Sight Number 1-3, in this case, the 2 revolvers in front of me, they would also fit the OM without any variation, unless the screw size is pertinent? I am anxious to try the #11 on my converted single six with 2 dogs bead front. crash86 +1
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Post by RDW on Aug 4, 2023 11:45:34 GMT -5
Yes. Except I’m thinking the OM Flattop might require its own variation. OK Im looking here at a Nw model FT 44 special, and an OM FT 44 mag. They look the same, both micro sights. The only exception is visually, the windage screw is smaller on the OM FT, Ive not taken them apart and put any measuring devices on them, but it looks to me if, RW 2 Dogs Flat Top Rear Sight Number 1-3, in this case, the 2 revolvers in front of me, they would also fit the OM without any variation, unless the screw size is pertinent? I am anxious to try the #11 on my converted single six with 2 dogs bead front. crash86 +1 It is a smidge different.
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Post by RDW on Aug 4, 2023 12:04:11 GMT -5
I do not have one to try out, so Im just asking questions. How do these work when adjusted left or right to accommodate off center front sights? Does the set screw easily gall the aluminum Ruger sight body? Will the blade stay in place without the set screw? Are you continuing to develop the design, so a 2nd generation might be expected once more bugs are worked out through buyer feedback? Are any of the reviewers pulling their Bowen sights, and swapping back to a Ruger with the insert? They actually have more travel than the original blade. I made sure of that. There is nothing much left to do other than user choice of slot width and depth of notch which can easily be changed. We are as always limited by original designs sizes and unrepetitive manufacturing characteristics so i have spent the last six months looking at all angles. 30 someodd ruger rear sight assemblies were used to get all the dimentions plus or minus so i could standardize on a platform. Unfortunately most folks dont realise how much R & D goes into some of the simplest parts. They think you just put a peice of material in to the magic machine, turn it to fifteen seconds, and DING out it comes ready to rip huh? Hahaha. All of the gentlemen here on this forum know better i beleive because all of you actually work on your stuff and i have been very impressed with your skills and ideas. So keep the questions coming, i will work on it for you. The last 3 months manufacturing and logging the test results. Shooting all barrel lengths and blade widths to insure that the standards were indeed Viable Standards. I am all About Improvements. That is my end game! User feedback always spurs new ideas and will on this project inspire me to make a whole new rear sight as well. The site is made of steel so as Fermin stated it is a bit tougher than the aluminum base but it keeps or retains the click adjustment. Once in Place i snug the set screw fro windage. I have some rear bases that this sight was very nug in and would not have required the set screw. But then there are those that were sloppy. The set screw eliminates that. If i were to make every one accomodate the looser base, It would not even fit in the tighter one and there is no way for the end user in the feild to get proper dimmentions to make a decision on what size to ask for. So with that being said i had to decide on just where to put the Happy Medium. I hope that helps! Any Questions please fell free to call me. Ronnie
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Post by mccartycfii on Aug 4, 2023 12:12:56 GMT -5
I do not have one to try out, so Im just asking questions. How do these work when adjusted left or right to accommodate off center front sights? - I have a Ruger Single Six 9 1/2” that needs sent back to Ruger to have the barrel regulated to center. The barrel is over torqued (past top dead center) really bad! I used this revolver to see if the new Fermin Rear could compensate. I paired the #3 U-Notch rear with a tall Fermin Gold Bead front (0.570 base to top). This is as bad as bad can get for a rear to adjust to zero, and the Fermin Rear adjusts to zero just fine. The “Factory Rear Blade” was so far adjusted to the left the blade actually pushed out of the track of the base. If you look at the Fermin Rear from a top view, you will notice the sight tapers to a slightly wider rear width. The Bowen’s do this with a “wing” or “extended shelf”, Fermin’s Rear uses a really nice taper.Are any of the reviewers pulling their Bowen sights, and swapping back to a Ruger with the insert? - I have already place an order to start a slow transition to Fermin Rears.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 12:35:06 GMT -5
They look great. Im not offended by the set screw but just had to ask questions about its purpose. Your hard work is never in question. These inserts look to be an excellent advancement.
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James
.30 Stingray
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Post by James on Aug 4, 2023 12:56:08 GMT -5
Ordered the W/O yesterday.... I have all the factory w/O`s made plus Bowen and Millett. This look`s to be a "top shelf" product and find it exciting to be able to purchase a new addition to revolver iron sights in this day and age... Congratulations to all involved....
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Post by 2 Dogs on Aug 4, 2023 12:58:56 GMT -5
They look great. Im not offended by the set screw but just had to ask questions about its purpose. Your hard work is never in question. These inserts look to be an excellent advancement. You gotta know I was gonna pull your leg a little brother!!
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Post by handgunhuntingafield on Aug 4, 2023 17:56:54 GMT -5
They look great. Im not offended by the set screw but just had to ask questions about its purpose. Your hard work is never in question. These inserts look to be an excellent advancement. Just grabbed a Redhawk to run these sights!
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Post by sixshot on Aug 5, 2023 0:39:11 GMT -5
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djoch
.240 Incinerator
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Post by djoch on Aug 5, 2023 8:23:36 GMT -5
Sixshot, I noticed you have one sight with white outline and one without. I’m torn between the two and wondering if there are pros and cons of both or does it just boil down to personal preference? Thanks!
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Post by RDW on Aug 5, 2023 9:54:14 GMT -5
Sixshot, I noticed you have one sight with white outline and one without. I’m torn between the two and wondering if there are pros and cons of both or does it just boil down to personal preference? Thanks! When Fermin brought this concept to me, He had a whole list of ideas to go with it. Guys like me and Fermin are always looking for a way to make a better mouse trap i guess. The problem is always getting from point A to B. If you can get to B, you gain the confidence neccasary to launch to C. When i designed this particular sight , which mind you is the 4th attempt at getting to B. I had to take into consideration several factors Based on what i have learned from the grip Frames. Customer preferance, Changes of heart with the customer, Simplicity in manufacturing (atleast minimal of cycle time), And the fact that the white, silver or gold paint will wear with time. I did some recon on what turned out to be a marker pen that uses paint instead of die. It has been around a while and has a good record of sales so i dont beleive it will be discontinued until something better comes along. It is not a die, it is an oil based paint that can be removed with a list of volatile chemicals you wont find in the feild. Lacquer thinner, MEK, Carburetor cleaner, etc. etc. But you can at home or in the garage. The tip of this sharpie paint pin is exactly .002 thousandths smaller than the groove i have machined in these version with an outline. it slips right in without bleading into the diffusion grid lines. so its easy to redo. Here is a pic of the markers.
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Post by lar4570 on Aug 5, 2023 10:22:32 GMT -5
Are those fine or extra fine points on the paint pens? I've tried model paint on my rear sights before with a tooth pick, but the results are not always too great. Ordered a rear sight with the white outline yesterday can't wait till the mail lady brings it!
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Post by sixshot on Aug 5, 2023 10:54:38 GMT -5
djoch, as mentioned I haven't shot either gun yet because it hasn't quit raining but as a rule I usually prefer the white outline rear sight. I want to shoot both of them first before painting the other one. Great sights!
Dick
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