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Post by bengineer on Jun 22, 2023 14:21:27 GMT -5
I love the wisdom and knowledge shared here. Invaluable, even. I believe that without the sharing of knowledge, it will go away.
Not meaning to stir the pot. I re-read what I posted and it does come off as accusatory. Please accept my apology for that.
I once had a gun stolen from my vehicle, in my driveway. It was in my CCW rig on the passenger seat. A guy I knew took it. I turned it in and the Man said they couldn't do anything. Gun was recovered several years later from his house after a thug threatened his girlfriend's baby. She took it away from him and shot his guts with 45 birdshot. A good friend was one of the docs in the ER. He said the thug would do well in prison, as half his guts were removed and he wouldn't ever eliminate solid again. That gun was in the worst condition of any SIG I have ever seen. I was so disgusted with my error and the thrashing of a good firearm that I traded it off and just carry around the memory. Since then, I lock my guns at my bedside to protect against smash and grab (I have little kids, too) and keep my daily on me. Moral of the story is wear it or lock it up!
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Post by mrchick on Jun 22, 2023 14:48:57 GMT -5
This week 2 hospitals in Shreveport had many cars broken into. 5 guns stolen at just one facility. Hospitals around here have “No firearms” posted in the doors. Crooks probably figure out that this is prime hunting ground for guns in vehicles because people leave them in the cars.
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Post by kevshell on Jun 22, 2023 15:02:50 GMT -5
My truck has a lockbox in the console and under the rear seat. I typically only leave a Glock and a Remington tac14 in the truck. The lockboxs are deterrents but not impenetrable. So I have my CCW/truck boom stick but if they're stolen it's not a huge loss.
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Post by jack on Jun 22, 2023 16:06:36 GMT -5
I cannot, for the life of me, determine why one would leave a concealed carry arm behind. Isn't the point to be able to use said arm to protect life and liberty? Or is it really only to fulfill a privilege provided by paying one's state for a permit? I could go so far as to say it is shameful to leave behind a concealable arm, especially if it is to bend to some rule disallowing same by some despot, or worse yet, some fumble-fingered appointee who is exercising power because "it's muh job!" That's what the nazis said in the Nuremburg trials just before they faced firing squads. But maybe I will withhold that comment here, as it seems some posting here are sympathetic to the Man and his limitations on our God-given lives and our right to those lives and to protect those lives. I for one work in several places that have metal detectors, forbid firearms, and provide for stiff penalties for violating said rules (And laws in a number of cases) High moral indignation, and expression of belief in one's inalienable rights is virtuous and laudable... . But I am not quite willing to carry that indignation and expression to the point it earns me a felony conviction and relieves me forever of those rights. I guess I will just have to live with being a "knuckle-under" type bowing to despots, and weak willed semi-illiterate authority figures and keep locking the gun on the car when need be, But I have no conscience so I will still sleep well
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Post by contender on Jun 22, 2023 16:37:44 GMT -5
"I cannot, for the life of me, determine why one would leave a concealed carry arm behind. Isn't the point to be able to use said arm to protect life and liberty? Or is it really only to fulfill a privilege provided by paying one's state for a permit?'
Obviously you've not considered the fact that there are places you can not carry concealed,, even with a permit. Otherwise you are breaking the law, and risk jail, loss of rights etc.
I carry daily,, but I also have to occasionally leave my gun behind to go into certain places. That's when it gets locked in the vehicle,, using handcuffs.
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Post by kings6 on Jun 22, 2023 16:51:18 GMT -5
Which of the locking boxes that bolt into a console compartment to you guys prefer? My lower console compartment licks with a key but I’d like to add an additional locking box inside the console compartment.
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Post by bushog on Jun 22, 2023 17:14:14 GMT -5
Another use for that damned box full of Ruger factory locks…… It must weigh 75 pounds…..
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Post by northerngos on Jun 22, 2023 17:25:25 GMT -5
Which of the locking boxes that bolt into a console compartment to you guys prefer? My lower console compartment licks with a key but I’d like to add an additional locking box inside the console compartment. Consolevault.com is great. I’ve had two, one in a tundra one in a Tacoma. Only problem is I can’t fit a full sized 1911 in the Tacoma model but that’s the fault of the Toyotas tiny console.
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Post by paul105 on Jun 22, 2023 18:04:01 GMT -5
If I have to leave my carry peace in the vehicle, the slide and bbl assy is in a pocket. Takes less time to take down and reassemble than trying to lock up. For the most part I avoid those places.
FWIW
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Post by cas on Jun 22, 2023 20:28:31 GMT -5
Oooof. Meaning I would have been able to steal it with a paper clip when I was still in elementary school. Not trying to pick on you, most locking consoles and auto lock boxes people use for these can be opened in seconds by even a novice. Security is an illusion. People will say they're looking for easy targets of opportunity and won't bother. Perhaps. But if they have the ability and equipment to unlock modern cars electronically, they can rake a wafer lock.
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Post by sixshot on Jun 22, 2023 20:58:00 GMT -5
At least we're getting some dialogue going. How do you avoid "those" places, he was at a high school baseball field in broad daylight & was actually parked pretty close to where they were sitting. We all have to start somewhere, I still say a good lock, maybe a combination lock, instead of a padlock attached to the frame of the seat might be the best answer, thoughts?
Dick
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Post by kevshell on Jun 22, 2023 21:39:30 GMT -5
This is what's in my truck. The lock box in the back has similar combo locks. Personally I don't want to lose the key. But you won't get to this fast. These are all deterrents and will likely work for smash and grab. But none are 100% impenetrable. In NC you can't carry in govt buildings. And you couldn't carry in places serving alcohol but they changed that to you couldn't drink alcohol.
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Post by northerngos on Jun 22, 2023 22:04:58 GMT -5
Of course, nothing is 100% effective. But the reality is that most break ins are very fast, smash and grab. It doesn’t pay to waste time. This is the same concept behind using gun cabinets or regular sized unsecured gun safes. Your house will probably never be broken into. If it is, most burglars will be stymied effectively by moderate measures. If they are willing to bring a truck and a dolly and a friend and cart the whole safe away, that sucks but at the end of the day everyone has to balance convenience and ease (consistency) of use with absolute security. (The same concept applies to choice of ccw, spare mags, flashlight carry etc). Cable lock is a great easy idea that is cheap and doesn’t require modification of a vehicle. Frankly I personally love the idea of a vault where I can stash my weapon, and a spring loaded locking cable snare under the seat with an inoperable, chrome air soft pistol as bait. We all can dream…
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Post by kings6 on Jun 22, 2023 22:44:58 GMT -5
Just ordered from consolevault for my truck.
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Post by jeffh on Jun 23, 2023 7:11:08 GMT -5
...I could go so far as to say it is shameful to leave behind a concealable arm, especially if it is to bend to some rule disallowing same...
Courthouse?
Public School?
Dr.'s offices?
I'll let someone else be the martyr on that one. Anyone willing to throw themselves on the spear of said despot may make the headlines, but unlikely they'd make any headway in changing that situation for the better.
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