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Post by x101airborne on Dec 9, 2021 7:46:44 GMT -5
Had to have a 340pd when they first dropped as part of my search for the perfect pocket pistol. Got a steal on one at a little shop in the middle of nowhere and the only ammo on the shelf was 140gr 357 Silvertips. Fella had a little indoor range in the back so snatched up the Silvertips and sent the 5 most painful rounds ever down range. That evening my hand swelled up like a basketball and a trip to the ER showed 3 hairline fractures in my hand. That gun never saw another magnum round. On the noise I generally despise the crack of a 357 and have been without one for many years. Anything pistol related these days I try for a heavy bullet just subsonic if I have the possibility of shooting it without hearing protection. Years of heavy machine guns, ambulance sirens, and heavy equipment have made my favorite word "What?". Don't need to make it worse. Yeah, I believe it. I fired ONE round of 140 Hornady FTX round and that was out of an all steel firearm!
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Post by ezekiel38 on Dec 9, 2021 13:03:41 GMT -5
x101 I have been working with Longshot and a 125 XTP in a 38 SPL case. 7.0 grains and it is doing 958fps. This is fired in a Colt Night Cobra 2" bbl. Quite accurate and shoots to POA. This info obtained from Brian Pearce from Handloader Magazine Special Edition Winter of 2017. Top Ten Reloaded Handgun Cartridges. This is a +P 38 load and was fired through a Ruger LCR 2".
Second load which is also very accurate, shoots to POA but blasty is: 125 JHP, 6.8 grs of Power Pistol in 38 Spl cases with a Fed 100 primer. Does 1016fps. Noisy with muzzle flash. I prefer the Longshot load.
These loads are easy to extract with no high pressure signs from my D frame, new manufacture Colt.
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Post by bradshaw on Dec 9, 2021 13:40:32 GMT -5
Had to have a 340pd when they first dropped as part of my search for the perfect pocket pistol. Got a steal on one at a little shop in the middle of nowhere and the only ammo on the shelf was 140gr 357 Silvertips. Fella had a little indoor range in the back so snatched up the Silvertips and sent the 5 most painful rounds ever down range. That evening my hand swelled up like a basketball and a trip to the ER showed 3 hairline fractures in my hand. That gun never saw another magnum round. On the noise I generally despise the crack of a 357 and have been without one for many years. Anything pistol related these days I try for a heavy bullet just subsonic if I have the possibility of shooting it without hearing protection. Years of heavy machine guns, ambulance sirens, and heavy equipment have made my favorite word "What?". Don't need to make it worse. ***** Would you like me to order you a STRAIGHT JACKET? Or, a hand made for Captain Hook? The M-640 is a great variant of Smith & Wesson’s Centennial, a rugged, compact, 21-ounce belly gun. Tolerable but not fun when stoked with .357 Mag. Someone at S&W must have decided that, since the steel J-frame .357 is a good thing, we’d better make one that’s TOO MUCH of a GOOD THING----a 12-ounce .357 Mag of titanium cylinder on aluminum frame. Ernest Hemingway said there are three sports: "automobile racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing. ...All the rest are games.” Were Hemingway around to try your M-640PD, he might have added ALUMINUM HAND CANNONS to his list of “sports.". Terminal performance usually implies projectile effectiveness in living tissue. Perhaps a sub-definition should include damage to shooter. David Bradshaw
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Post by medicdave on Dec 9, 2021 14:24:30 GMT -5
Without a doubt David, way to much of a good thing! The 10ft tall and bulletproof 20 something version of me had to have it (the straight jacket probably would have saved that guy a lot of trouble). The 40 something 6ft tall and proven to not be bulletproof version has settled on the 5oz heavier Sig p365 as the pocket pistol of choice. Much easier to shoot well, conserves anatomy, and plenty potent.
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Post by squawberryman on Dec 9, 2021 16:16:23 GMT -5
Paul, any evidence of malfeasance from the L'il Gun loads sir?
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Post by paul105 on Dec 9, 2021 18:02:13 GMT -5
Paul, any evidence of malfeasance from the L'il Gun loads sir? None that I can detect. Probably only shot 350 rnds thru multiple guns/calibers (revolvers and rifles) over 15 yrs and never more than one cylinder at a session. Paul
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Post by rkcohen on Jan 20, 2022 10:59:29 GMT -5
fwiw - speer has dedicated "short barrel" data in their reloading manuals...
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Post by x101airborne on Jan 20, 2022 11:11:41 GMT -5
Thats good to know. Thanks!
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 20, 2022 20:50:15 GMT -5
For the snubs I use Red Dot and power pistol.
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Post by callmaker on Jan 21, 2022 7:17:33 GMT -5
Dad got a SP 101 a couple years ago. We worked up some 158 gr XTP and HS6 loads to try that were from 8 to 9.5 grains. I believe he settled on 9 grains if memory serves. I shot a couple of cylinder fulls and for the limited sample I had they were more than accurate enough for general outdoors carry, and the recoil was not bad at all. HS6 seemed like a good fit for his purposes. I remember thinking I’d really like to try the HS6 with a heavier cast bullet! This thread has me thinking about it again now.
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