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Post by whitworth on Jan 14, 2020 10:40:03 GMT -5
Five-shots, 10mm.... I think this is an interesting project Jack Huntington is working on. It's a Single 6 chambered in 10mm. Here are some preliminary photos of it. I will update as it's farther along.
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Post by bcelliott on Jan 14, 2020 10:48:25 GMT -5
Nice! Quite the little powerful package. I wonder if Jack will need to relieve the loading gate area to be able to get those cartridges in and out easily...
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Post by mike454 on Jan 14, 2020 11:34:25 GMT -5
Nice! Quite the little powerful package. I wonder if Jack will need to relieve the loading gate area to be able to get those cartridges in and out easily... He might, but it will be less than the amount it has to be opened to fit a 38 special in there which has been done by a number of smiths.
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Post by princeout on Jan 14, 2020 13:44:29 GMT -5
Nice! Quite the little powerful package. I wonder if Jack will need to relieve the loading gate area to be able to get those cartridges in and out easily... He might, but it will be less than the amount it has to be opened to fit a 38 special in there which has been done by a number of smiths. And a fair amount less than is needed for the 41 Special. Interesting that he chose to use a New Model SS rather than an Old Model. Hopefully the loading gate relief will be small enough that the transfer bar channel isn't breached. Neat looking gun - but 10mm auto is pretty stout pressure-wise for the Single Six frame. I think SAAMI is around 33K. Tim
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Post by whitworth on Jan 14, 2020 13:53:29 GMT -5
A client brought his gun in for conversion.
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Post by potatojudge on Jan 14, 2020 13:56:06 GMT -5
If he can use a NM without cutting into the transfer bar channel, then IMO this would be THE conversion for a Bisley SS. Will there be any provision for optics on this one? An RMR plate built to screw into the sight channel or a barrel mounted optic would make the most of the build.
Looking forward to the details and finished build.
Max, are you planning to use this or anything other than a 475+ caliber Magnum Research on Big Iron?
Edit: ah, not yours. Exciting build regardless.
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 14, 2020 14:16:43 GMT -5
I have a Single "Five" in 10mm. It took some talking to get Reeder to try it. But, he eventually tried one.
The cylinder walls are about the same as a Blackhawk 44 Magnum.
I've had mine several years and it's doing fine. I've kept tolerances checked closely as many predicted stretching. So far no measurements have changed.
The bullets can be seated out so Handloaded performance can be impressive.
These little packing pieces are impressive for woods carry.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jan 14, 2020 14:57:16 GMT -5
I’d think one with an aluminum Bisley grip frame would make an awesome field gun. I was actually thinking converted blackhawk with aluminum grip frame, but this looks and sounds pretty nice.
Trapr
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Post by mike454 on Jan 14, 2020 15:01:39 GMT -5
If he can use a NM without cutting into the transfer bar channel, then IMO this would be THE conversion for a Bisley SS. The problem with the bisley gripframe will be the weight. You'd end up with a gun that weighs more than a FA 97 in 45 colt. It would be a tidy little gun though! Ps Bigbrowndog beat me to it. An al gripframe would take care of the weight issue. I haven't had time to wrap my head around all the possibilities these new grip frames offer
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 14, 2020 15:03:25 GMT -5
I had discussed this with Jack a couple years back. At that time I had them in 40 S&W and 10mm.
At that time, I decided to move forward with my JRH 25-20 Single Five and currently waiting on my 218 Bee Single Five.
I'm glad Jack decided to build this. It'll certainly be done right!!!
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 14, 2020 15:23:38 GMT -5
Ok, now I'll get my myself in trouble which will be nothing new.
Gary chambered my 10mm Single Five very tight. All ammo fits fine and brass lasts forever.
I can put a VERY Firm taper crimp and still have positive headspace. I seat some cast and jacketed bullets only .15" in the case and have had zero bullet creep.
Now, for my tricky point. Before anyone replies, think about what I'm saying.
The 10mm blows the 41 Special out of the water in this particular application. Bullet selection is tremendous with the 10mm. Plus, they perform at the available velocity.
Then there are other factors. Plenty of factory ammo available too. Then the fact that Jack could easily add a 40 S&W Cylinder. The possibilities are nearly endless for loads.
No need to defend the 41 Special. It's an excellent cartridge. I've never built one due to the fact I have a FA97 in 41 Magnum. It shoots the 41 Special into tiny groups.
Somebody is getting a huge score here. I've been down this road already. But, will be fun to watch as Max posts pictures.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jan 14, 2020 15:31:20 GMT -5
As a 10mm fan, I think this is a pretty damn cool project. Ive been real tempted to get a 10mm SRH and ream it out to 10mm Magnum.
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Post by potatojudge on Jan 14, 2020 16:01:40 GMT -5
If he can use a NM without cutting into the transfer bar channel, then IMO this would be THE conversion for a Bisley SS. The problem with the bisley gripframe will be the weight. You'd end up with a gun that weighs more than a FA 97 in 45 colt. It would be a tidy little gun though! Ps Bigbrowndog beat me to it. An al gripframe would take care of the weight issue. I haven't had time to wrap my head around all the possibilities these new grip frames offer Agreed! As someone who agrees with the grip frame of the 97, custom Single Sixes are hard to justify. There are more options, finishes, chamberings, etc, but it’s hard to say they’re a necessity or a good value. Hence my 38 special Single Six went down the road and my three FA97s aren’t going anywhere. Love seeing these builds though because they’re very cool.
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Post by bushog on Jan 14, 2020 16:19:22 GMT -5
The problem with the bisley gripframe will be the weight. You'd end up with a gun that weighs more than a FA 97 in 45 colt. It would be a tidy little gun though! Ps Bigbrowndog beat me to it. An al gripframe would take care of the weight issue. I haven't had time to wrap my head around all the possibilities these new grip frames offer Agreed! As someone who agrees with the grip frame of the 97, custom Single Sixes are hard to justify. There are more options, finishes, chamberings, etc, but it’s hard to say they’re a necessity or a good value. Hence my 38 special Single Six went down the road and my three FA97s aren’t going anywhere. Love seeing these builds though because they’re very cool. That 10mm is going to be a nice one... One reason I sold my .41 Special is that you're limited to lower pressure loads. Don't get me wrong, but... I've never put a SS and a FA side by side... Just how do the frames match up size wise...weight wise?
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Post by mike454 on Jan 14, 2020 16:55:04 GMT -5
single six bisley 22 drift rear sight is about 42 oz. a FA 97 in 45 colt 5.5" barrel is about 38 oz. For comparison, if you want to go really light a 4 5/8" 41 Special built on an OM Single Six with aluminum grip frame and steel ERH - 30 oz. That last gun wasn't weighed by me so I wont swear to it's accuracy.
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