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Post by Encore64 on Sept 5, 2019 8:21:29 GMT -5
I want to point out that this gun is built with a .355" (or 9mm) barrel. We've found much better accuracy squeezing .357-.358" down than sending .355" bullets down .357" bores.
The forcing cone is tapered and never any signs of higher pressures this way. Many gunsmiths use .308" barrels on their 32 caliber builds for the same reason.
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Post by pacecars on Sept 5, 2019 9:50:48 GMT -5
The possibilities with that size barrel are endless it seems. A .357 Sig would be interesting
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Post by z1r on Sept 5, 2019 10:06:52 GMT -5
I want to point out that this gun is built with a .355" (or 9mm) barrel. We've found much better accuracy squeezing .357-.358" down than sending .355" bullets down .357" bores. The forcing cone is tapered and never any signs of higher pressures this way. Many gunsmiths use .308" barrels on their 32 caliber builds for the same reason. I've found much the same.
I have several rifles that are .35 Whelens now, but started like as 9x57's. They too have bores ranging from .354" to .356" and are tack drivers.
Love the revolver! But you really missed the boat by not getting a .380 ACP cylinder!
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 5, 2019 10:09:11 GMT -5
I want to point out that this gun is built with a .355" (or 9mm) barrel. We've found much better accuracy squeezing .357-.358" down than sending .355" bullets down .357" bores. The forcing cone is tapered and never any signs of higher pressures this way. Many gunsmiths use .308" barrels on their 32 caliber builds for the same reason. I've found much the same.
I have several rifles that are .35 Whelens now, but started like as 9x57's. They too have bores ranging from .354" to .356" and are tack drivers.
Love the revolver! But you really missed the boat by not getting a .380 ACP cylinder!
How so? The 9mm is considerably more powerful and ammo is cheaper. I can't see any reason for a 380 cylinder...
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Post by z1r on Sept 5, 2019 12:01:40 GMT -5
I see sarcasm doesn't come across well on forums.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 5, 2019 13:31:25 GMT -5
I see sarcasm doesn't come across well on forums. Not a lot of reason for it either. Friend has a 380 on an early Ruger SSM Frame. He loves it.
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Post by z1r on Sept 5, 2019 13:47:27 GMT -5
I see I can't win. No worries.
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Post by wheelguns on Sept 5, 2019 15:10:10 GMT -5
I have a ruger sr9c that never shot very good. I started shooting .358 bullets out of it and it tightened right up.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 5, 2019 15:11:59 GMT -5
I have a ruger sr9c that never shot very good. I started shooting .358 bullets out of it and it tightened right up. It sure makes a difference. I really look forward to trying some good cast bullet loads in that 38-44 H.D. Cylinder.
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Post by Frank V on Sept 6, 2019 17:28:30 GMT -5
I really like some of Reeders guns, one I particularly like is the .45 Backpacker.
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Post by leadhound on Sept 6, 2019 18:32:06 GMT -5
In response to the 9x25 dillon and the 357 sig, might work I have absolutely no experience, but some guys have experienced case set back with tapered/shouldered cases. They were designed for auto loaders, not sure if anyone has put into a revolver? The 7.62x25 tokarev was looked at but the extreme taper and neck were believed to cause issues, that would be a sweet one though.
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 6, 2019 19:54:51 GMT -5
A few notes
* The .357 SIG tries for light hullet .357 Mag velocity from a short magazine auto pistol. An excellent cartridge of high intrinsic accuracy. Its short neck works well with 125 grain bullets. Efficiency falls with bullets in 147 to 160 grain range. Might show efficiency in a revolver with bullet seated to base of neck----not intruding into boiler room. The .38 Super provides much better support for a long, heavy bullet, without the sizing, seating, and bullet pull challenges.
* It’s better to pinch a bullet than rattle it. Many a Colt Python has a .354 to .355-inch groove diameter. Some of the old Pythons even have a tapered bore. That’s right, the bore tapers ever so slightly from frame to muzzle. Groove diameter is uniform. The way it was explained to me, an old Colt mechanic used a piece of wood to oscillate the bore reamer or hone, which produced a minute taper. The broach then cut grooves of uniform diameter, so that the grooves were actually deeper at the muzzle. There have been zany mechanics in the old Yankee gunshops, Colt, Smith & Wesson, Sharps, etc.
* No enlargement of the forcing cone is necessary to squeeze a bullet into the rifling. The critical relief is in the chamber, which must allow case neck to expand enough to release the bullet. David Bradshaw
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 7, 2019 8:33:18 GMT -5
We've found with the multi cylinder guns with differing bullet diameters such as 9mm .355" and 38 Special. 358" that the modified (Tapered) Taylor Throat works best.
Having to adjust the sights less between cylinder swaps and more consistent accuracy.
As long as this continues to work, it'll be the norm on my builds. But, as always, to each their own. I tend to do what works and not alter success.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 22, 2019 18:28:52 GMT -5
Shot this gun along with the 327 Federal Clements Bisley Single Seven this evening.
Using only the 9mm cylinder and factory ammo. The gun really liked the Speer Gold Dot Ammo, keeping most groups around 1".
The Hornady Flex Tip Zombie ammo was much worse at around 2.5". Most of the other brands were 1.3-2" average.
This gun has the express V-Notch Rear and Bead front sight. Groups were much better shooting at a dot than a target grid. Sights certainly matter more than most of us realize.
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Post by rjm52 on Sept 23, 2019 8:37:54 GMT -5
Have to agree on the sight comment... The Reeder Custom .41 in my Avitar came with a FA gold bead front and Ruger V rear...I got a LOT of vertical stringing. Switched to a Bowen w/o rear and Clemants long range front and no more stringing issues.
My favorite right now for general purlose revover shooting is a green FO front dot set in a serrated square cornered Patridge style front with a w/o rear blade deep enough so the entire front dot fits in the notch...
Bob
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