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Post by bula on Aug 12, 2019 17:17:06 GMT -5
We have come to accept that the Punch bullets, CEB's, Lehigh's and possible others have advantages when chasing things the size of a Honda Accord. What I've not heard discussed, do they have any advantages as to accuracy ? Is anybody shooting them at 100yds and beyond and finding what ? I don't consider myself any kind of "marksman", just not. So, am asking you folks, is there a next chapter to these bullets ? Being machined, an advantage to be seen in accuracy ? Your thoughts ?
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 13, 2019 6:02:31 GMT -5
VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. I TRY NOT TO SHOOT GAME WITH REVOLVERS AT BEYOND 100 YARDS, AND FOR THE BIG STUFF I PREFER 50 YARDS OR LESS. SO, BECAUSE OF MY SELF SET RANGE LIMITATIONS, AND THE COST OF THESE BULLETS, I HAVEN'T DONE ANY LONG RANGE (OVER 100 YARDS) ACCURACY TESTING, NOR ANY EXTENSIVE ACCURACY TESTING AND COMPARISONS TO SIMILAR WEIGHT "REGULAR" BULLETS. OVERALL, I DO NOT HAVE ANY ACCURACY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PUNCH AND LEHIGH BULLETS I HAVE LOADED AND SHOT.
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Post by whitworth on Aug 13, 2019 7:14:06 GMT -5
The monolithic solids are precision made and tend to be very accurate. At least this is what I’ve found. All of my Punch loads have shown great accuracy as well. I’m with Rey in that for me handgun hunting is an up close and personal proposition.
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Post by bula on Aug 13, 2019 7:28:45 GMT -5
Thanks guys. i only mention the distance thing thinking that will be where an accuracy edge may become apparent. Yes, my handgun hunting has only ever been an inside 75yds kinda thing. With my eyes and hands as is now, much less. Where it has been successfully argued that they have an edge on very large game, maybe the sheep, pronghorn, 'bou hunters might want to take a serious look too ?
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Post by sixshot on Aug 13, 2019 13:08:07 GMT -5
I think for the animals you mention a more lightly constructed bullet would probably be better at distance although I would also guess that those premium bullets would hold their own in the accuracy department even at long range, they just might not be the best choice. Long range with revolvers comes with a risk, not just with the bullets.
Dick
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Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 13, 2019 14:33:21 GMT -5
I would think the best benefit for “us” traditional handgun hunters is with the bullet in a penetration aspect, and the stuff we would poke with a solid is going to be close 50 yards, and definitely under 75 yards. I’ve not seen any results from mono metal “expanding” bullets? Especially at speeds that we would typically send them at, has anyone else??? Trapr
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Post by tradmark on Aug 13, 2019 22:05:11 GMT -5
Ive used the barnes extensively at 1500 to 2000 fps and its a destruction machine and has been plenty accurate.
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Post by paul105 on Aug 13, 2019 22:51:00 GMT -5
Which Barnes -- isn't there a Buster Solid and an XFB Hollow Point?
Paul
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 14, 2019 6:39:45 GMT -5
THE BARNES BUSTER IS NOT MONO-METAL, IT IS A FMJ LEAD CORE BULLET, VERY WELL CONSTRUCTED.
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Post by whitworth on Aug 14, 2019 7:35:03 GMT -5
Which Barnes -- isn't there a Buster Solid and an XFB Hollow Point? Paul He’s talking about the XPB. I used them on my mountain lion and the internal damage was impressive.
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Post by whitworth on Aug 14, 2019 7:35:32 GMT -5
THE BARNES BUSTER IS NOT MONO-METAL, IT IS A FMJ LEAD CORE BULLET, VERY WELL CONSTRUCTED. With a tiny, tiny meplat....
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Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 14, 2019 9:45:29 GMT -5
Whit, do you have any captured XPB’s??? Trademark, same for you??? Seriously, I do not recall ever seeing any images of pistol bullets, expanded or recovered. Maybe because they exit???
My personal experience with the mono’s that are intended to expand or come apart for subsonic use from rifles is.............inconsistent performance.
Trapr
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Post by sixshot on Aug 14, 2019 12:10:22 GMT -5
I recovered a Barnes X bullet from a Blue Wildebeest that was almost facing me but it was a TC Encore not a revolver. Went almost end to end. I still have it. 338/284, 185 gr bullet.
Dick
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Post by leftysixgun on Aug 14, 2019 12:19:19 GMT -5
I recovered a Barnes X bullet from a Blue Wildebeest that was almost facing me but it was a TC Encore not a revolver. Went almost end to end. I still have it. 338/284, 185 gr bullet. Dick Post a picture of that bullet Sixshot
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Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 14, 2019 12:28:10 GMT -5
Dick, I’ve got a recovered old Barnes X as well, awesome penetration but from a 300WM and impact was 100-150 yards. It’s pretty much a copper cylinder with all the petals broken off,.....I did find a petal as well. My feeling is velocity helps tremendously, but most of the revolver rounds that get used don’t really get to the 1500-2000 FPS that Tradmark references. Although with the lighter weights of the copper and brass bullets maybe it’s more possible than I think? Trapr
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