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Post by bula on Aug 4, 2019 16:32:44 GMT -5
I've wanted a 480 Alaskan for some yrs now. Did baby steps. Grew up with a 44mag SBH and a Bulldog 44spec.. Last year or so considered a 629 and a 329PD. Stepped back a bit and 2 M69's came here to live(flawless). Found a 454 Alaskan to fondle and found it, i think, usable to me with mid sized hands. So ordered and got a brand new Alaskan of the 480 flavor. I put together 50 loads using 14grs of CFE-P and the 275gr Speer HP.. No issues, shot clean, clocked 1050-ish from the Alaskan. Opened very nicely in hard dry ground and look like a giant Winchester, um, that bullet we no longer mention the name of because it scares bad guys and atty's.. Tried a couple cylinders of the Missouri 340 PC'd bullet on 8grs of TB, and now have a huge 44spec., that doesn't seem to shred lead like the BSBH do. Am quite happy so far..then out come the 325gr SP Speers, loaded up for bear use for the S.A's. Ejection now goes wonky. Grr ! I had thought that by now, the problem would be solved and they'd not allow further crap outta the door. So, who's Alaskan 480 have had NO issues ? Who has/had the issue and your solution ? I gotta believe ole Bill Ruger did not have as a goal, to be the finest maker of project and donor guns. of those returned to Ruger, returned fixed ? Do you know what they did to fix ? Cylinder "rough" inside ? Ejector rod flimsy and binding ? It would be nice if manufacturers put some kinda ball or flat at the end..
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Post by contender on Aug 4, 2019 16:52:18 GMT -5
I have a trio of 480's. A pair of Super Redhawks, & a Super Blackhawk Bisley. Now,, most of my shooting is with my own cast bullets,,, but the few Cor-Bon's I've used never gave me any problems.
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Post by bula on Aug 4, 2019 18:23:16 GMT -5
With another 50-60 of various loadings thru her, am thinking the cylinder may only need polishing. As pressure goes up, sticky extraction shows up and gets worse. Truly, am liking everything else about this lil cannon. Won't look for a holster, speedloader, or better front sight until bear get off me worthy. The only reason for this gun. If ya have one of these things sitting around and factory level and BB type loads loosen your fillings and ain't fun, the Missouri 340gr PC'd bullet on 8-8.2grs of TB is just all kinds of FUN.
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Post by bula on Aug 4, 2019 18:40:50 GMT -5
Have the SRH 480's had this problem ? Just an Alaskan problem ? If the issue goes back to ? Why still around ?
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 4, 2019 20:04:07 GMT -5
IN THE 480 CYLINDER OF A CUSTOM DUAL CYLINDERED, 5 1/2 INCH, BANDED BARREL RUGER BISLEY, I AM SHOOTING THE THUMPER OVER 20grs OF VVN-110, FEDERAL 155M PRIMERS, STARLINE CASES, AND GETTING 1,215fps. A VERY MANAGEABLE AND LOAD WITH PLENTY OF POWER AND ACCURACY.
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Post by dougader on Aug 4, 2019 20:37:30 GMT -5
I had heard of the older 480s having problems with extraction when using high-end loads, but nothing recently.
Have never run my newish SRH 7-1/2" with anything other than light to medium range loads, so no experience with top-end loads to share.
My heavy load is Sixshot's 395 grain PC'd HP at about 1050-1100 fps... way under max.
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Aug 4, 2019 21:02:03 GMT -5
My SRH cylinder DOESNT LIKE any bullet that is any wider than 477 Max !! But I've never had any problem ejecting empties. Even hot older factory 325 gr XTP @ 1475 + fps @ 20 ' from the Chrony. Corrected to true mv its close to 1500 fps. Ejecting unsized cast bullet handloads that I'm getting the seating depth figured out on can be Very frustrating. This winter I'm planning on sending it off to have the throats checked and possibly polished . ECT. I can't blame Ruger because its 100% with factory ammo. And once I get the seating depth all lined out they plop in and drop out fine. Sorry I'm not much help. I suspect I have a few narrow throats which is causing my leading problem I'm having in the barrel.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 4, 2019 21:05:28 GMT -5
Keep in mind, the single actions only have to push out 1 at a time, so the double actions pushing out 6 may make them more pressure sensitive than the single actions
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Post by paul105 on Aug 4, 2019 21:24:58 GMT -5
It's been a while since I've shot mine but never had any extraction issues. Ran some 400gr Lee's over a hefty charge of H110 that generated 1,025 fps (6 rounds) from the short barrel and extraction/ejection was no problem.
Have a 327 single seven that has prominent annular machine marks int the chambers easily seen with the naked eye. When looking down the chambers, can you see anything that might indicate a rough chamber? May need to have chambers polished
Paul
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Post by paul105 on Aug 4, 2019 21:34:33 GMT -5
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Post by paul105 on Aug 4, 2019 21:42:41 GMT -5
If the above link doesn't work then go to BB website and then:
Home » Technical Articles» STICKY EXTRACTIONS OF FIRED CASES
Paul
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Post by bula on Aug 5, 2019 8:05:00 GMT -5
Thank you Paul. Link worked. I had forgotten the array of info available on that site !
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Post by bula on Aug 7, 2019 7:40:10 GMT -5
Further googling shows this a too common problem going back too many years. Yes, mine has rough chambers, visible to eye. It does appear to be a two part issue. Brass choice being the other part. Seems most of the people with extraction trouble were using Hornady brass as I am. An order going out in a few minutes for some Starline. Simplest ways to polish, clean up tooling marks in cylinder being sought. Your thoughts ? The Hornady brass can be used yet more light loads and in the BSBH's here. A second thought, can try a powder switch to say 2400 rather than the Power Pistol. Less pressure for the velo.
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Post by squigz on Aug 7, 2019 7:55:37 GMT -5
Further googling shows this a too common problem going back too many years. Yes, mine has rough chambers, visible to eye. It does appear to be a two part issue. Brass choice being the other part. Seems most of the people with extraction trouble were using Hornady brass as I am. An order going out in a few minutes for some Starline. Simplest ways to polish, clean up tooling marks in cylinder being sought. Your thoughts ? The Hornady brass can be used yet more light loads and in the BSBH's here. A second thought, can try a powder switch to say 2400 rather than the Power Pistol. Less pressure for the velo. I would try the 2400, as you know it's my favorite in the 480 with my next in line being HS6. I would get a undersized brush, say 38 cal, and get a pot scrubber from the dollar store and put it around the 38 cal brush and then clean the chambers that way. Fermin mentioned this to me with my 480 when I was running into some issues and it worked great. Though, my chambers were just a lot of carbon build up and not so much tooling marks so I'm not sure if that would make the situation better.
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Post by bula on Aug 7, 2019 8:03:51 GMT -5
Yeah, have a copper scouring pad made of ribbons of copper. Strands of this wrapped around a brush get the lead out from my BSBH, pinch choked barrels. Don't think this will make much of an impression on S.S.. These poorly manufacturer/assembled guns are teaching me things, sigh. A switch to Starline brass and 2400 to try..
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