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Post by papacharlie on Aug 4, 2019 10:04:53 GMT -5
I have been wanting to get a western single action six for some time. I like the Uberti 1973 El Patron Cattlemen Comp with a 4.75" barrel.
I am hoping to draw from the knowledge of the forum on some questions I have.
1) What do you think of the Uberti line? Are they a quality firearm?
2) Which would you choose the 45LC or the .357 Mag? I am leaning to the 45LC.
3) I shoot a lot of 45ACP. I reload with jacketed round nose 230gr .451 bullets. Can I use these to reload the 45LC? Would be nice if I could use the same round in both as I buy in bulk.
4) I am considering the Uberti Comp because it comes with a wider low slung hammer. The one I checked out in the store felt real nice. Any comments?
I have been hanging around the forum for some time. I appreciate the knowledge and honesty of the members. Thank you in advance for your input.
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 4, 2019 10:29:47 GMT -5
I've never seen a bad Uberti. Have quite a few in my collection and all are stellar guns.
I think you are on the mark choosing the old 45 Colt.
I'd recommend getting 45 Colt bullets with a cannelure.
You can easily order and fit a 45 acp cylinder to your Uberti. I did and it shoots every bit as well as the 45 Colt.
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Post by frankenfab on Aug 4, 2019 10:35:18 GMT -5
Where is the best place to get parts? I have a 357 and a 44-40 given to me. Both need loading gate/bolt springs, and one could use a new pawl.
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 4, 2019 10:42:17 GMT -5
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Post by JM on Aug 4, 2019 11:03:47 GMT -5
45 Colt.
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Post by papacharlie on Aug 4, 2019 12:30:07 GMT -5
I forgot about the cannelure. I know that the old guns had a bore of .454 and the modern 45ACP is .451. Are the modern 45 Colt also .451 or different?
I like the idea of being able to swap cylinders to use the 45ACP. I see on the link for parts above that they are available for a reasonable cost. Do these have to be fitted or are they a drop in usable alternative?
Thanks very much for the replies.
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Post by wheelguns on Aug 4, 2019 12:35:25 GMT -5
Uberti’s are good guns. Nice fit and finish. Shoot well. The only problem is they don’t offer many with adjustable sights
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Post by mk70ss on Aug 4, 2019 13:11:59 GMT -5
I have that exact gun in both calibers (.357 and .45 Colt) but with the 3.75 inch barrel. Both have been stellar guns in every aspect. .357 is a whole lot cheaper to buy factory ammo for....Here is my .45
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Post by taffin on Aug 4, 2019 13:21:49 GMT -5
[ I know that the old guns had a bore of .454 and the modern 45ACP is .451.
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Post by taffin on Aug 4, 2019 13:23:00 GMT -5
[ I know that the old guns had a bore of .454 NOT NECESSARILY SO. MY FRIEND BRIAN PEARCE MEASURED A BUNCH AND FOUND NOTHING LIKE THIS
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Post by papacharlie on Aug 4, 2019 13:23:49 GMT -5
I don't buy factory ammo, I reload most everything I shoot. I haven't done the math but feel that the cost of rounds once I purchase the brass will be reasonable either way I go. A quick look at MidwayUSA there is a delta of about $0.15 per round between the .357 and the 48 Colt bullets for jacketed rounds. For small quantities.
I might be able to get them even cheaper if I shop around. I do like to buy in bulk (1000 rounds min.) which also helps.
Plus the more I think about having a replacement cylinder for 45ACP the more I like it. I must have close to 10K cases that I have picked up at the range and about 1/3 of those are loaded now.
But still not sure, why I am here, trying to learn from you all. Patrick
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Post by mk70ss on Aug 4, 2019 13:26:04 GMT -5
You will learn a ton of good info from those here, I know I have. Good luck with whichever you choose.
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Post by papacharlie on Aug 4, 2019 13:34:47 GMT -5
The 3.5" looks real nice. The 4.75" I hefted in the store had a good feel to it as well. The .357 was a lot heavier as there is more metal in the cylinder and barrel as a result of the small round.
Can you feel a significant difference between your two 3.5", 45 vs 357?
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Post by mk70ss on Aug 4, 2019 13:55:05 GMT -5
The 3.5" looks real nice. The 4.75" I hefted in the store had a good feel to it as well. The .357 was a lot heavier as there is more metal in the cylinder and barrel as a result of the small round.
Can you feel a significant difference between your two 3.5", 45 vs 357?
Like you said, the .357 feels heavier in the hand. Recoil is also heavier with the .357 if you are actually shooting magnum loads. I usually use .38 specials in the .35 and in the .45, I generally shoot cowboy loads in the 750 FPS range.
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Post by deaconkc on Aug 4, 2019 14:46:31 GMT -5
Since you do reload, cost is close. If you get the .45 ACP cylinder you do gain a weird advantage. You can use a 1911 magazine to feed your Uberti when loading.
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