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Post by Burnston on Aug 2, 2019 18:26:12 GMT -5
Good evening all, Does anyone have any practical experience with these? I've spoken with a representative from Bowen Classic Arms who says this custom is no longer available. I am very interested, but have yet to come across anyone who has owned or used one, or even seen one. I have combed through what a basic internet search has to offer, which is little. I am very curious about their practicality and usefulness. Has anyone actually seen or used one? Perhaps someone can offer some insight into what it might take to actually make one.
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Post by 500fksjr on Aug 2, 2019 18:30:28 GMT -5
Good evening all, Does anyone have any practical experience with these? I've spoken with a representative from Bowen Classic Arms who says this custom is no longer available. I am very interested, but have yet to come across anyone who has owned or used one, or even seen one. I have combed through what a basic internet search has to offer, which is little. I am very curious about their practicality and usefulness. Has anyone actually seen or used one? Perhaps someone can offer some insight into what it might take to actually make one. Call Jack Huntington...And have deep pockets!!
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Post by kings6 on Aug 2, 2019 19:12:45 GMT -5
I too tried talking Hamilton into doing one of these a few months ago and he passed on the opportunity with me as well.
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Post by Burnston on Aug 2, 2019 19:33:42 GMT -5
I too tried talking Hamilton into doing one of these a few months ago and he passed on the opportunity with me as well. I wonder if there is a structural or longevity issue to this design using anything besides the lightest loads. I think it is a great idea; the lack of information is a bit frustrating.
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Post by kings6 on Aug 2, 2019 19:50:24 GMT -5
Hamilton did not express any concerns about longevity of the design, he just was not willing to commit the time necessary with everything else he said he was focusing on. The same reason Colt, Smith & Wesson and Freedom Arms work are no longer available. Ruger catalog items on his website only.
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Post by bushog on Aug 2, 2019 19:55:03 GMT -5
This post made me think about when Ben Forkin was working in the shop with Mr. Bowen.
It is truly mind boggling to think about the amount and variety of work the shop turned out in those days.
What I would give to have been a fly on the wall during conversations about the possibilities....
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Post by justahunter on Aug 2, 2019 20:35:43 GMT -5
The Light Weight Conversion in his website looks similar.
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Post by cubrock on Aug 2, 2019 21:11:11 GMT -5
I have one of Texas Longhorn Arms' versions of that design. They are neat to study and be in awe of the work it takes to build, but their practicality is limited, in my opinion.
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Post by kings6 on Aug 2, 2019 21:16:17 GMT -5
I think I was pretty close to getting in under the wire on my USFA lightweight hid did for me. As more of the current artists scale back, trim their offerings or retire completely it alters which guns a guy is willing to let go down the road. I thought long and hard before I rehomed the FA 327/32 mag to a couple members recently for that same reason. Hamilton is not doing the two piece FA grip frame and reduction an obviously there will be no more Fishpaw grips with my Gun In - Gun Out self imposed rule and knowing who was getting the gun I decided to let it go. The other guns by Bowen that represent work he no longer performs, a few by Alan Harton that he will not replicate and a Jim Stroh gun are safe from moving for now. Interesting enough, Greg's comment about being a fly on the wall when Ben Forking was working with Hamilton ties right in with a gun I have in Ben's shop now. I asked him if he had ever done an ovate barrel and he said he had, when he worked with Hamilton but not since. When I handed him a NM 44 Flat top with a Powers bisley hammer adn Persinger ivories and asked if he was willing to try another one he just stared at me a few seconds then took the gun and said he'd do it.
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Post by Burnston on Aug 2, 2019 21:34:25 GMT -5
I have one of Texas Longhorn Arms' versions of that design. They are neat to study and be in awe of the work it takes to build, but their practicality is limited, in my opinion. Will you please elaborate? Oddly, I've yet to find any definitive answer as to whether or not the spent shells eject, or if they must be removed manually.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Aug 3, 2019 6:03:35 GMT -5
Need lotsa money, get something "cool", with little or no practical value.
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Post by kings6 on Aug 3, 2019 9:31:35 GMT -5
I have one or two guns that meet that definition Ken!😀
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 3, 2019 15:54:27 GMT -5
I HAD A 1st GENERATION COLT SAA SEDGELY CONVERSION TO 22 HORNET WITH THE PULL OUT CYLINDER SIMILAR TO THE ABOVE BOWEN CONVERSION, BILL GROVER TOOK IT IN TRADE FOR A BANDED BARREL 5 SHOT STAINLESS STEEL TLA IN 45 COLT. THE PRESENT WHEREABOUTS OF THAT SEDGELY CONVERTED SAA ARE UNKNOWN TO ME. GUN WORKED FINE, NO COMPLAINTS BUT I AM NOT SURE OF ITS PRACTICALITY.
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Post by Burnston on Aug 3, 2019 17:52:48 GMT -5
I HAD A 1st GENERATION COLT SAA SEDGELY CONVERSION TO 22 HORNET WITH THE PULL OUT CYLINDER SIMILAR TO THE ABOVE BOWEN CONVERSION, BILL GLOVER TOOK IT IN TRADE FOR A BANDED BARREL 5 SHOT STAINLESS STEEL TLA IN 45 COLT. THE PRESENT WHEREABOUTS OF THAT SEDGELY CONVERTED SAA ARE UNKNOWN TO ME. GUN WORKED FINE, NO COMPLAINTS BUT I AM NOT SURE OF ITS PRACTICALITY. Thanks for the input. Can you eject the spent shells from the cylinder double action style, or do you manually eject them one by one? I've not found a picture of the cylinder in detail.
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Post by cubrock on Aug 3, 2019 18:38:36 GMT -5
You eject the spent cartridges double-action style on the TLA.
The .22 Hornet Sedgely to which 45man referred was what Bill Grover used to design his own version.
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